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Royal Louis 1780 Mamoli
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IF this kind of thing matters to the model builder this is a good example where it is a good idea to check sources based on contemporary information to confirm if the kit is correct or not. There is also the issue of stacking boats. Do you or your followers have any examples of contemporary models or drawings that show boats stacked? From what I have read this was not done on English ships of war, but it may have been different for French ships. Some good questions for the team at the Musee de la Marine Paris.
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Sur le RL du musée de la marine, il n'y a pas les chaloupes.
J'ai déjà vu des kits de différents modèles avec des chaloupes empilées.
Maintenant, pour mon modèle, je n'ai pas fait de recherches historiques, à part pour les peintures, mais je me suis permis certaines libertés pour faire un modèle qui me plaît.
Je n'ai pas cherché non plus à faire un modèle sorti du chantier naval avec des peintures parfaites.
J'ai déjà vu des kits de différents modèles avec des chaloupes empilées.
Maintenant, pour mon modèle, je n'ai pas fait de recherches historiques, à part pour les peintures, mais je me suis permis certaines libertés pour faire un modèle qui me plaît.
Je n'ai pas cherché non plus à faire un modèle sorti du chantier naval avec des peintures parfaites.
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Merci Chris pour ces compliments , c'est vrai que pour les couleurs j'ai fait mes choix, ceci dit, je les ai choisies parmi les teintes utilisées à l'époque sur les navires.
Maintenant, je ne travaille plus sur le bateau, il ne me restait plus que les drapeaux à poser et c'était ma dernière construction car je n'ai pas de place pour les exposer .
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Il va falloir être patient, je dois refaire la pièce dans laquelle je dois, entre autre , exposer les maquettes, faire les vitrines etc.....
Donc, c'est pas pour demain.
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Petit coucou pour enfin terminé ce post.
Après avoir retapissé la pièce qui sert un peu à tout, bureau, ordinateur, machine à coudre etc.... j'ai fabriqué deux vitrines en sapin pour mettre 3 bateaux dont le Royal Louis.
Dans la vitrine verticale, il y a en haut le Puritan et en bas le Royal Caroline ( ma première construction ).
Après avoir retapissé la pièce qui sert un peu à tout, bureau, ordinateur, machine à coudre etc.... j'ai fabriqué deux vitrines en sapin pour mettre 3 bateaux dont le Royal Louis.
Dans la vitrine verticale, il y a en haut le Puritan et en bas le Royal Caroline ( ma première construction ).
Good morning. A very cool collection. Congratulations. Cheers Grant
Very impressive!
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Good morning, and again thanks for your likes and comments.
I’ve been quite busy working away on the model, I’m wondering where the hours spent have gone as the progress doesn’t seem to reflect the time that I’ve spent on it.
I’ve made up and fitted the rudder, it’s ply sheathed with walnut strip, the hinges are cast and I think are quite nice. I messed up and needed to make a second one. I made up and fitted the forward facia with the provided cast doors. I made and fitted the platform on the foredeck with the vents and capstan, I did this three times! The first time over the plan but when it came to fitting it the cut out in the ply decking was too large for the platform, it just fell through. I made the second using a different shade of strip which when in place looked at odds with the deck planking, I made sure that I got it right a third time. I made up and fitted the gratings, hatches and ladders for the main deck I made sure that I got them right this time. I cut out the upper deck gun ports and finished off the wall heights. During this I also started painting some of the surfaces, I think that you’ll get the idea of my colour scheme. More next time.
I’ve been quite busy working away on the model, I’m wondering where the hours spent have gone as the progress doesn’t seem to reflect the time that I’ve spent on it.
I’ve made up and fitted the rudder, it’s ply sheathed with walnut strip, the hinges are cast and I think are quite nice. I messed up and needed to make a second one. I made up and fitted the forward facia with the provided cast doors. I made and fitted the platform on the foredeck with the vents and capstan, I did this three times! The first time over the plan but when it came to fitting it the cut out in the ply decking was too large for the platform, it just fell through. I made the second using a different shade of strip which when in place looked at odds with the deck planking, I made sure that I got it right a third time. I made up and fitted the gratings, hatches and ladders for the main deck I made sure that I got them right this time. I cut out the upper deck gun ports and finished off the wall heights. During this I also started painting some of the surfaces, I think that you’ll get the idea of my colour scheme. More next time.
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Hello. An update on my progress with yet more time consuming re-does.
I made up and painted the grating section for the mid upper deck which included a hatchway for a set of stairs, I’ve just loosely fitted it at the moment. There should have been six gratings but there was only enough parts to make up five, I made the length up by adding a small raised deck at the front.
The re-do took both time and effort it was a spur of the moment decision that could have become a bit of a disaster. I decided that the lower hull somehow didn’t look right, it looked too rich a colour, a reddish mahogany which may have looked good on a piece of furniture but didn’t suit a ship, why did I think it would look ok, I’m just making too many mistakes at the moment. I’d used a penetrating spirit stain which went right into the wood, on top of that I’d applied a coat of sanding sealer so it wasn’t going to be easy to change. I spent a few hours sanding the hull back to as near bare wood as I could get, I couldn’t get all of the colour out so decided on a darker stain, American walnut. I used a water based stain this time, one that I hadn’t used before it wasn’t a great success. It went on a bit like paint, it didn’t really penetrate the wood except in the grain and dried blotchy, leaving me with no choice but to sand it back again, a complete waste of a day and I was now officially worried, had I ruined the hull and was it retrievable. For my next try I used my favourite spirit dye, this time Teak and to my surprise it gave a very acceptable finish, with the residue of the other stains still effecting the wood grain it gave a sort of old weathered look but still with a hint of richness to the wood, I was both pleased and relieved at the outcome. It was a get out of jail moment, I hope there aren’t many more for this build.
I haven't photographed the finish yet, just the sanded hull.
I made up and painted the grating section for the mid upper deck which included a hatchway for a set of stairs, I’ve just loosely fitted it at the moment. There should have been six gratings but there was only enough parts to make up five, I made the length up by adding a small raised deck at the front.
The re-do took both time and effort it was a spur of the moment decision that could have become a bit of a disaster. I decided that the lower hull somehow didn’t look right, it looked too rich a colour, a reddish mahogany which may have looked good on a piece of furniture but didn’t suit a ship, why did I think it would look ok, I’m just making too many mistakes at the moment. I’d used a penetrating spirit stain which went right into the wood, on top of that I’d applied a coat of sanding sealer so it wasn’t going to be easy to change. I spent a few hours sanding the hull back to as near bare wood as I could get, I couldn’t get all of the colour out so decided on a darker stain, American walnut. I used a water based stain this time, one that I hadn’t used before it wasn’t a great success. It went on a bit like paint, it didn’t really penetrate the wood except in the grain and dried blotchy, leaving me with no choice but to sand it back again, a complete waste of a day and I was now officially worried, had I ruined the hull and was it retrievable. For my next try I used my favourite spirit dye, this time Teak and to my surprise it gave a very acceptable finish, with the residue of the other stains still effecting the wood grain it gave a sort of old weathered look but still with a hint of richness to the wood, I was both pleased and relieved at the outcome. It was a get out of jail moment, I hope there aren’t many more for this build.
I haven't photographed the finish yet, just the sanded hull.
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Hi, Wotjas. Oops. sorry about intruding on your log, I'll put it down to age. Ken@Ken Nice progres, but are you sure this is your build log?
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I was studying your build before I did my post, I left my screen on your build by mistake when I added my post. I'm not very good with computers, Ken