Santisima Trinidad - Occre Build Log [COMPLETED BUILD]

Thank you so much for posting your build, I’ve had some difficulties building mine and it’s great too have someone else’s build to help. I’ve also have had some health issues that slow things quite a bit. So thank you again for sharing.
 
Great work. This ship is on my list of ships to build. It looks more complicated than I thought. I suspect that I will encounter a lot of pitfalls, but thanks to your post here, I will have some help. Great job, once again
 
Donnie said:
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One part of making the alignment of frames square, I almost overlooked making sure that the Frames were of equal distance of port and starboard as well. The circles show that I made some marks on the False Keel and Frames to make sure this part is made with good alignment.

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Hi Donnie--the way you lined up the frames with the keel is encouraging to me--it's so simple, but effective. I never thought of doing it this way, but I will from mow on!
 
Donnie said:
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Started Gluing up the frames. It seems that it might be overkill for alignment using the clamps, however, I figure that this is the most important in making sure the hull frame is square.

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Hi Donnie--are those squares you're using witjh those clamps--clever idea, I won't forget this. Andy from Kenosha.
 
Donnie said:
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John ---

I am very happy to see you back !!!!
First of all, you are very correct about the OcCre rigging plates and plans. I personally have struggled trying to make sense of it all. The main problem is this: No consistences anywhere. For instance.

1. The photographed manual that shows pics of the rigging for the stays do NOT agree with the "Profile" plan view (the big sheet). Next, all of this does not agree with the "rigging plate" as far as the back stays.

2. I did have my stays on pulleys and my Halyards simply pulled through the Bitt rails (near the mast base), but at some point, that did not make sense. I was thinking why do they have the lower and upper stays on pulleys in the first place. Seems like that should be a permanent fix. But, the plans show them on pulleys where in other places like the photos do not. It almost seems like 3 or 4 people worked on the design of the kit.

The point is that if you are going to rig it covering ALL aspects of what they suggest, then you need to have enough pulleys and eyebolts to do the job --- and the problem is that neither exist.

It is almost impossible to do the rigging correctly by not having enough pulleys and eyebolts to do what is required. So, therefore you see that I re done ALL the Halyards. Even now, I am not 100% happy, but it is going to have to do. I apologize to those that are following this build. I have looked at just about every ST out there I could get my hands on and all are different.

Attached is the plate for the Halyards and associated pulley tie off points. Notice - which direction is the fore and aft -- ALL in a straight line with the mast in the center.

Where are the eyebolts? If you look at the plate for the fore and main stays, they seem to conflict with using a pulley or not to use one. So, I just gave up and decided that all Halyard yard lifts will be on pulleys and the mast stays fore and main will use an eyebolt. I have yet to find any rhyme or reason as the plans all conflict with each other.

John,
I wish you well on your Nuestra and your montanes. I would like to know if the Nuestra suffers the same or it all could just be ME !!! Maybe I simply just don't get it and understand the whole thing. I still say that my lack of experience prevails in this whole matter - then you mix that will incomplete documentation and I have a huge mess on my hands.

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Donnie said:
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I guess its a good thing that I do not have any cats in the house !
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Hi Donnie, my kit included stacks too many double pulleys & nowhere enough singles, so I started making my own as needed. Perhaps Occre count by weight & the wood density varies? Just a thought. Maybe use an abacus!

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Hi Don I just started my build if you don't mind I would like to follow your build Very impressive love the time and detail you have spent on this build I'm just retired and now have some time on my build
 
Thank you all for the nice compliments - they are all appreciated much.

@Dale Kearns welcome to SOS - yes, I would love for you to follow. If you have any questions, I will try to answer them.

If is my understanding now, that OcCre has split the False Keel into two pieces. I am sure that this is a new method to keep the parts flat.
 
Hi Donnie, I just found this build and wow am I grateful!!! I'm in the midst of rigging the (MUCH simpler) cross section of this ship, so I only have to deal with the mainmast, but Occre's instructions are so horribly confusing. I will continue to pour through your excellent photos and documentation -- what a lifesaver!!

Cheers,
Bryan
 
nandoyoni said:
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Quiero agradecer sinceramente a cada uno de ustedes por ayudarme en el camino para completar este gran proyecto (al menos para mí lo fue). Fueron 5 años y medio en la fabricación.
También quiero decir "gracias" por todas las amables palabras. ¡Aunque, creo que algunos de ustedes solo están tratando de ser amables! :) Les aseguro a todos que hay muchos otros grandes modelos de barcos construidos aquí y en otros foros a los que tengo que quitarme el sombrero y asombrarme. Es a todos ustedes a quienes alentó y educó sobre qué hacer y qué no hacer.
He estado tan ocupado en el trabajo que no he podido hacer pasatiempos en casa desde abril de 2014. Finalmente tuve un descanso durante las vacaciones de Acción de Gracias (vacaciones en los Estados Unidos) para disfrutar de un tiempo libre.
Sé de varios que ahora están tomando este modelo con MUCHO más entusiasmo y MUCHO más talento e ingenio que yo para agregar toques adicionales que simplemente no tenía la previsión o los recursos para obtener el extra que algunos de ustedes tienen.
En cualquier caso, presento a todos mis mejores amigos de modelaje aquí en este foro, mi logro, en la medida en que solo puedo decir que hice lo mejor que pude con lo que tenía. Debo agregar que mi corazón está con el nuevo modelador que viene, que a menudo está lleno de emoción y luego consternado cuando se dan cuenta de que las instrucciones son a menudo muy deslucidas.
Si OcCre solo lee esto, tome nota: tome nota de sus placas de aparejo y revíselas y piense en el modelador por una vez.
No estoy seguro de lo que será mi próximo proyecto, pero estoy seguro de lo que reduciré un par de puntos en dificultad.

Sinceramente
Donald B. Driskell
Propietario Barcos de escala @ 2018

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Increíble las maravillas realizadas y las fotos tan apasionantes e instructivas que hace, un placer ser miembro de este apasionante foro de maestros
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Hi. Sorry to bother you with this, but I just found your post about this model, and all the links to the images you uploaded seem to be broken.
 
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