Oh man your ship is brilliant !
Sovereign of the Seas - Sergal 1:78 (with hopefully many added details)
When you cut out those deadeyes to replace them with smaller ones, can you salvage the upper deadeye and their lashings and use them in the upper masts somewhere and save some work?
This is absolutely amazing detailing and provisions for a working gun ship every where I look. Hard to imagine the time and effort that you put into this vessel. Truly a work of art and craftsmanship that inspires me all around with the precision. Rich (PT-2)
Daniel20 – No I thought that the two heads (seats of ease) were actually too large – when visually glancing at, And comparing them to the stairs.
PT-2 as always thanks! You are much too kind - Much appreciated.
Grant: Big thanks as well – thanks for your interest in this project.
Kurt: Yes, indeed those deadeyes and their lashing will be resurrected in the upper masts lol….
I am re-visiting the belaying pins “issue” especially at the forecastle deck. The Sergal kit also does not allow for lashing ropes at forward forecastle railings. My work around will be to add a cross timbers above all railings. This would preclude adding pin rails as much as possible.
In any case, its clear to me from other sources that I use, including McKay that the Sergal rigging plans are very inaccurate. And they don’t include running rigging plans for adding sails. The end results will probably be a hybrid, Vasa (similar vintage), McKay and Anderson Frankenstein monster rigging effort.
Also given that no empirical rigging data are available for ships of that vintage, adds to the conundrum.
I remember being so “obsessed” with the Vasa trying to very correctly pin all ropes to their historically accurate place…hmmm???. its been FIVE years and builders are still waiting for Vasa II rigging book…..
Now, when I look at the Vasa I have very little idea looking at that jungle of lines, if in fact they are placed correctly. Looks ok – so all good…
As always thank for comments, likes and just dropping by. PS: rigging image is from McKay.
PT-2 as always thanks! You are much too kind - Much appreciated.
Grant: Big thanks as well – thanks for your interest in this project.
Kurt: Yes, indeed those deadeyes and their lashing will be resurrected in the upper masts lol….
I am re-visiting the belaying pins “issue” especially at the forecastle deck. The Sergal kit also does not allow for lashing ropes at forward forecastle railings. My work around will be to add a cross timbers above all railings. This would preclude adding pin rails as much as possible.
In any case, its clear to me from other sources that I use, including McKay that the Sergal rigging plans are very inaccurate. And they don’t include running rigging plans for adding sails. The end results will probably be a hybrid, Vasa (similar vintage), McKay and Anderson Frankenstein monster rigging effort.
Also given that no empirical rigging data are available for ships of that vintage, adds to the conundrum.
I remember being so “obsessed” with the Vasa trying to very correctly pin all ropes to their historically accurate place…hmmm???. its been FIVE years and builders are still waiting for Vasa II rigging book…..
Now, when I look at the Vasa I have very little idea looking at that jungle of lines, if in fact they are placed correctly. Looks ok – so all good…
As always thank for comments, likes and just dropping by. PS: rigging image is from McKay.
Ha. I read on the museum forum recently (or maybe it was on the publisher's website) that Vasa II will now come out as two books in succession. Not sure what will be in each book... The first portion of Vasa II was reportedly nearly completed but then delayed by the pandemic. The second portion was to come out less than a year after the first portion. All this to say that I am not holding my breath.
Been a while since I posted - minor update. Here are a few images. Note the railings are just "posed" need to add a bit more work to those. Need to also seriously start thinking about the stern galleries, balconies and all of their complex issues - will enjoy the challenge; the entire stern framing sections will be scratch built, along with hopefully many added details.
Thinking of some kind of mosaic flooring for the two balconies - as opposed to planks. -Will look at some HO model train retail sites for any ideas that that amazing hobby offers that could be useful here.
Enjoy your holiday weekend if you're celebrating. Our son is coming down from Berkeley for a long weekend with us. I'm off for a good solid week - I had accepted a part-time fill in position - it turned out to be more or less full time for several reasons. lol...Not complaining
PS: The bronze bits are actually much "warmer" looking my iPhone does not seem to "see" that. Yea I could play around with the images in iPhotos or in Preview no biggie.......
Cheers,
Thinking of some kind of mosaic flooring for the two balconies - as opposed to planks. -Will look at some HO model train retail sites for any ideas that that amazing hobby offers that could be useful here.
Enjoy your holiday weekend if you're celebrating. Our son is coming down from Berkeley for a long weekend with us. I'm off for a good solid week - I had accepted a part-time fill in position - it turned out to be more or less full time for several reasons. lol...Not complaining
PS: The bronze bits are actually much "warmer" looking my iPhone does not seem to "see" that. Yea I could play around with the images in iPhotos or in Preview no biggie.......
Cheers,
I love your work John. You are building a beautiful ship.
Confession: the Dremel tool "soldiers on parade" made me laugh. Think of all the time the rest of us waste changing out drilling/sanding attachments...
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Confession: the Dremel tool "soldiers on parade" made me laugh. Think of all the time the rest of us waste changing out drilling/sanding attachments...
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Boy houdy if that ain't the truth!I love your work John. You are building a beautiful ship.
Confession: the Dremel tool "soldiers on parade" made me laugh. Think of all the time the rest of us waste changing out drilling/sanding attachments...
John she's such a beauty to look at!
Paul, Daniel -- hahaha yea a bit of obsessive overkill on those Dremel Micro 8050 rotary tools - parenthetically IMO the BEST rotary tool ever produced by Dremel There are times when we need to be, as you noted, changing bits back and forth - so just thought to overkill that frustration lol.
I have never posted "personal" images - but in this context here are -one time- images of the evolution on my shipyard.
When our son went off my payroll, left for college & lived on his own - I then claimed eminent domain and took over his room.
Now it's my hobby/shipyard/TV/music "man-cave space. Compared to some over-the-top amazing images of other builder's "shipyard" spaces mine is still a bit claustrophobic - but huge a improvement over that little first folding table watching TV. working on the Vasa haha
Thanks for your nice words regarding this build - very much appreciated.
Oh Paul I'm still torn about adding treenails to the Sovereign the way you did with your awesome vasa hull - I added the bits you used into my Amazon cart - but I am still very fearful of ruining the build by messing up those thousands of burned-in treenails as you so amazingly accomplished. Yikes lol.....Given the extra details that are being added - it would be so nice adding them.
I have never posted "personal" images - but in this context here are -one time- images of the evolution on my shipyard.
When our son went off my payroll, left for college & lived on his own - I then claimed eminent domain and took over his room.
Now it's my hobby/shipyard/TV/music "man-cave space. Compared to some over-the-top amazing images of other builder's "shipyard" spaces mine is still a bit claustrophobic - but huge a improvement over that little first folding table watching TV. working on the Vasa haha
Thanks for your nice words regarding this build - very much appreciated.
Oh Paul I'm still torn about adding treenails to the Sovereign the way you did with your awesome vasa hull - I added the bits you used into my Amazon cart - but I am still very fearful of ruining the build by messing up those thousands of burned-in treenails as you so amazingly accomplished. Yikes lol.....Given the extra details that are being added - it would be so nice adding them.
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Once again..great work. I am also building a Sergal kit and the rigging diagrams leave out a lot and seem to work for model completion not authenticity. I am using Alan McGowan and John McKay references here...all the Mc’s. I wonder if there is a kit out there which really has a ship right.(Although for me it is fun doing research and learning non the less)
What a great room for your shipyard. I have done something similar. Is that you in the left seat on your screen saver? My dad was a pilot.
Grant: I'm historically a novice in that regard. Maybe other builders who viewed your question may want to respond. From what I have read regarding several kit reviews - kit provided rigging sheets both for standing and running seem to be the biggest complaint, as well as along hull shapes - this from very knowledgeable posters.
Daniel: Yes - I drove those busses or a long time (1st for a local carrier PSA - 727s, then with Continental followed by UA after their merger with Continental). Now retired - but recently returned as a part time (FAA part 135) driver, having retired from FAA Part 121. (121 - commercial operations 135 charter operations not limited to crews over 65 yrs.) I got hired part time as a fill in driver. Some crews refused C Vaccines - they got dumped - a life-long friend from the FAA called mentioned that some positions were available if I were interested.
DId your dad work in the business or military? My Dad was always in the airline business. Drove Connies for Pan Am, then 707s -
Found this old image of training in early Continental DC10. yikes!! just a kid back then, driving an antique (crews call them Classics) hahaha
Daniel: Yes - I drove those busses or a long time (1st for a local carrier PSA - 727s, then with Continental followed by UA after their merger with Continental). Now retired - but recently returned as a part time (FAA part 135) driver, having retired from FAA Part 121. (121 - commercial operations 135 charter operations not limited to crews over 65 yrs.) I got hired part time as a fill in driver. Some crews refused C Vaccines - they got dumped - a life-long friend from the FAA called mentioned that some positions were available if I were interested.
DId your dad work in the business or military? My Dad was always in the airline business. Drove Connies for Pan Am, then 707s -
Found this old image of training in early Continental DC10. yikes!! just a kid back then, driving an antique (crews call them Classics) hahaha
Thats outstanding John! My dad WW2 13 Army Air Corp in the Philippines. He was part of air sea rescue squad on Palawan, he flew PBY's and B17's with Higgins
boat attached underneath. Attached his first solo.
Kurt Konrath
Kurt Konrath
Those rescue B-17's were very important to flyers down at see.
Daniel,
Great story about your dad - Loved those Catalinas as well - But, B17 Fortress' were the great ones - must have built several Revell models of both back in the days. Thanks for sharing.
Great story about your dad - Loved those Catalinas as well - But, B17 Fortress' were the great ones - must have built several Revell models of both back in the days. Thanks for sharing.
Dad said when they released the Higgins boat the B17 would shoot up so fast and leave your stomach down below. Must have really been something.
Looks like you collect cars too. I have a collection of race cars in 1/32 scale.Paul, Daniel -- hahaha yea a bit of obsessive overkill on those Dremel Micro 8050 rotary tools - parenthetically IMO the BEST rotary tool ever produced by Dremel There are times when we need to be, as you noted, changing bits back and forth - so just thought to overkill that frustration lol.
I have never posted "personal" images - but in this context here are -one time- images of the evolution on my shipyard.
When our son went off my payroll, left for college & lived on his own - I then claimed eminent domain and took over his room.
Now it's my hobby/shipyard/TV/music "man-cave space. Compared to some over-the-top amazing images of other builder's "shipyard" spaces mine is still a bit claustrophobic - but huge a improvement over that little first folding table watching TV. working on the Vasa haha
Thanks for your nice words regarding this build - very much appreciated.
Oh Paul I'm still torn about adding treenails to the Sovereign the way you did with your awesome vasa hull - I added the bits you used into my Amazon cart - but I am still very fearful of ruining the build by messing up those thousands of burned-in treenails as you so amazingly accomplished. Yikes lol.....Given the extra details that are being added - it would be so nice adding them.
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stunning! what a great setup.Paul, Daniel -- hahaha yea a bit of obsessive overkill on those Dremel Micro 8050 rotary tools - parenthetically IMO the BEST rotary tool ever produced by Dremel There are times when we need to be, as you noted, changing bits back and forth - so just thought to overkill that frustration lol.
I have never posted "personal" images - but in this context here are -one time- images of the evolution on my shipyard.
When our son went off my payroll, left for college & lived on his own - I then claimed eminent domain and took over his room.
Now it's my hobby/shipyard/TV/music "man-cave space. Compared to some over-the-top amazing images of other builder's "shipyard" spaces mine is still a bit claustrophobic - but huge a improvement over that little first folding table watching TV. working on the Vasa haha
Thanks for your nice words regarding this build - very much appreciated.
Oh Paul I'm still torn about adding treenails to the Sovereign the way you did with your awesome vasa hull - I added the bits you used into my Amazon cart - but I am still very fearful of ruining the build by messing up those thousands of burned-in treenails as you so amazingly accomplished. Yikes lol.....Given the extra details that are being added - it would be so nice adding them.
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Dean, Are your cars slot cars? -
Yes over the years I have collected 1/24th from Danbury, and Franklin Mints. I also collect 1/18th from AutoArt and CMC. I no longer add to the car collections as tempting as some of the new releases are....
I also have many 1/400th scale airliners, to which I occasionally add (just pre- ordered a SWA 737 Max 800 in their new livery style) - an aircraft I have been in four times so far.
Jack; thanks as well - bit of an improvement from the early days lol..
Yes over the years I have collected 1/24th from Danbury, and Franklin Mints. I also collect 1/18th from AutoArt and CMC. I no longer add to the car collections as tempting as some of the new releases are....
I also have many 1/400th scale airliners, to which I occasionally add (just pre- ordered a SWA 737 Max 800 in their new livery style) - an aircraft I have been in four times so far.
Jack; thanks as well - bit of an improvement from the early days lol..