Steam powered wooden Drifter trawler, Formidable LT100, 1/20 scale by neptune

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I decided to use a piece of brass plate for the basis of the rudder, mainly for the extra strength,
I also made the rudder just a little bit wider, I cut out and glued the rudder drawing onto the
brass plate, this is the rudder after being cut and sanded to shape,


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and with the drawing removed,

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Set up for soldering, I'm no good at soldering,

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and after cleaning up the joint,

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and more or less where it will sit in place, just need a couple of small adjustments yet, i might abandon this lower
part of the set up and go for a strap around the round part like in the original drawing, I'm trying to work out a way
that I can include the stern post in front of the rudder, but have it so it can all come away as one piece, and I will
be planking over the brass rudder and attaching the straps,
Well thats it for now, goodnight,

best regards John.
Hi John,
Fantastic progress, looking forward to seeing more of your great build.

Cheers,
Stephen.
 
Well what can i say, after all the wonderful support I have decided to abandon the the support under the keel and go for the stern post in front of the rudder,


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The two pieces of brass pinned to ceramic bed,

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and after soldering,

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and after cleaning up the excess solder,

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what i decided to do was drill another hole in front of the rudder hole and epoxy another short tube in it to take the top end of the rudder post, this way i wouldn't have to bother with the top bracket with the three tiny screws, the main reason for doing it this way is that if there is any repairs that need doing to the prop or the rudder everything comes away easier,

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showing how the stern post and the rudder post will be aligned, this pic was taken upside down and has been reverted
so the rudder post will actually come down lower for the strap to go around it, i still have to decide how to attach the
holding straps,

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and a closer look,

best regards john,
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Well what can i say, after all the wonderful support I have decided to abandon the the support under the keel and go for the stern post in front of the rudder,


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The two pieces of brass pinned to ceramic bed,

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and after soldering,

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and after cleaning up the excess solder,

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what i decided to do was drill another hole in front of the rudder hole and epoxy another short tube in it to take the top end of the rudder post, this way i wouldn't have to bother with the top bracket with the three tiny screws, the main reason for doing it this way is that if there is any repairs that need doing to the prop or the rudder everything comes away easier,

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showing how the stern post and the rudder post will be aligned, this pic was taken upside down and has been reverted
so the rudder post will actually come down lower for the strap to go around it, i still have to decide how to attach the
holding straps,

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and a closer look,

best regards john,
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You are too modest about your solder work. It is a precise as you metal working which I admire. This is progressing well. Rich (PT-2)
 
Well what can i say, after all the wonderful support I have decided to abandon the the support under the keel and go for the stern post in front of the rudder,


View attachment 271776
The two pieces of brass pinned to ceramic bed,

View attachment 271777
and after soldering,

View attachment 271778
and after cleaning up the excess solder,

View attachment 271779
what i decided to do was drill another hole in front of the rudder hole and epoxy another short tube in it to take the top end of the rudder post, this way i wouldn't have to bother with the top bracket with the three tiny screws, the main reason for doing it this way is that if there is any repairs that need doing to the prop or the rudder everything comes away easier,

View attachment 271780
showing how the stern post and the rudder post will be aligned, this pic was taken upside down and has been reverted
so the rudder post will actually come down lower for the strap to go around it, i still have to decide how to attach the
holding straps,

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and a closer look,

best regards john,
.
Hi John,
Great soldering and a very sensible approach. Thumbsup

Cheers,
Stephen.
 
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making the strap for holding the toe that supports the rudder heel,

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and soldering in place, I decided to leave the extension on to support it while soldering,

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and after cutting and filing to size,

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test fitting,

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making up the straps that hold the rudder to the rudder post,

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I cut some wood to size on my saw for covering the brass rudder,

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and after gluing in place and sanding,

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Next up were the straps that held the rudder together, I bent and cut them to size and glued them
in place with CA super glue,

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then i marked them for where the brass pins would go through them
and popped a them with a small punch i made up,

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I then drilled them one size smaller than the brass pins that I would use,

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then I hammered the brass pins through, they were a nice tight fit,

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I cut off the back of the pins and hammered the ends over,
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Then I made up the small straps that hold the rudder to the rudder post, all this work still has
to be cleaned up yet, after test fitting I find that I will have to make a smaller holder to hold
the heel of the rudder,

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and the finished rudder against the plan,

thank you you for looking,

best regards John,
 
Dear neptune
You doing a great job and indeed the detailed explanations you give in accompanying the pictures help us to understand and apply in the future in the models built. Thank you:)Thumbsup:)
 
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Next up were the straps that held the rudder together, I bent and cut them to size and glued them
in place with CA super glue,

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then i marked them for where the brass pins would go through them
and popped a them with a small punch i made up,

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I then drilled them one size smaller than the brass pins that I would use,

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then I hammered the brass pins through, they were a nice tight fit,

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I cut off the back of the pins and hammered the ends over,
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Then I made up the small straps that hold the rudder to the rudder post, all this work still has
to be cleaned up yet, after test fitting I find that I will have to make a smaller holder to hold
the heel of the rudder,

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and the finished rudder against the plan,

thank you you for looking,

best regards John,
Hi John,

This is a great lesson for me in how to make a really good representation of the rudder and associated gear. Thumbsup Thumbsup

Cheers,
Stephen.
 
Hi John,

This is a great lesson for me in how to make a really good representation of the rudder and associated gear. Thumbsup Thumbsup

Cheers,
Stephen.

G'day Steve, you made a fantastic rudder assembly, over 50 percent of my rudder build is credited to you, I was just going to build a simplified version, I downloaded and studied all your photos and decided to give it a go, now I am looking at cutting out the end supports for the inner rudder post to finish the job properly like you did, thank you for posting all the detailed photos,
Best regards John,
 
Hello again Steve, I have been wondering how you crossed over the inner stern post bracket with the Toe nail iron, and I have just enlarged your photo and now I see and realise that the toe nail bracket is recessed into the keel and the inner post bracket just goes over the top, again thanks for the Photo's,
Best regards John,

PS I have just spotted it on the plans, I feel like Richard Craniums brother,
 
Dear dockattner
You doing a great job and indeed the detailed explanations you give in accompanying the pictures help us to understand and apply in the future in the models built. Thank you:)Thumbsup:)

Wow it looks like I have another double identity,

I know that I have a split personality, I was just saying to myself the other day how do you find the time and I replied to myself that if you didn't do all those other things we could do more, and it's goodbye from me and its goodbye him,

Best regards John,
 
Dear dockattner
You doing a great job and indeed the detailed explanations you give in accompanying the pictures help us to understand and apply in the future in the models built. Thank you:)Thumbsup:)
Wow it looks like I have another double identity,
Trust me, John, you have a very good 'spare' identity. Poul has a great personality. He is an orthodontist, a skilled ship modeler, and can bake...ropes! :) Lucky you!
 
It's all true. I make a mean sourdough country bread! And I have been known to bake polyester ropes as well :p. But never at the same time!

Paul you could bring out something new, you could bake loaves of bread with a Rope carrying handle built in,
All you guys have a great sense of humour, enjoy your modelling,

Best regards John
 
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