Thanks Graham...
Sultana - Colonial Schooner, 1767 - by MS, Scale 1:64 [COMPLETED BUILD]
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Thanks Graham...
Would this be the proper process: planking/sanding - stain - varnish - treenail trick - sanding - another layer of varnish?
G'day moreplovac
You are 100% correct. Just for some more information, you can restrain before you put the planks down. This way there's no chance of putting the stain where you don't want it to be.
You are going great guns mate!
Havagooday and happymodeling
Greg
G'day moreplovac
You are 100% correct. Just for some more information, you can restrain before you put the planks down. This way there's no chance of putting the stain where you don't want it to be.
You are going great guns mate!
Havagooday and happymodeling
Greg
Today i have been working on deck planking and on hole for a rudder. Also i stained few planks that will be used for deck planking..
I cut and stained the planks in golden oak color. The new approach is based on Greg's suggestions few posts above - thanks Greg..
Then i needed to hold the model in more steady position in order to continue with planking. For this planking job, the planks are fairly shorter than for the rest of deck planks (appr 2.4 cm) and the model should be steady sitting and not moving around. Did not want to cut the wood at 11pm so i found few appropriate pieces that can be utilized..
I think pictures are self explanatory. The idea is for future builds of the similar size, i can use the same cradle and just replace the foam parts that will be cut in the hull shape.
The ship fits very nicely in the cradle..
It is time to drill a hole for a rudder. Since the hole needs to be drilled very close to the edge and under certain angle, several supporting items (did not have enough hands to take a picture while holding ship and supports) are used throughout the process.
After some sanding, it is time to test the fitting of a rudder..
So, lets do planking..
And completed..
Planks are a bit oversized, hanging over board and will be sanded later.
The hole is cut for a rudder on new planked deck and rudder was tested for fitting...
Done for today.
Happy modeling..
I cut and stained the planks in golden oak color. The new approach is based on Greg's suggestions few posts above - thanks Greg..
Then i needed to hold the model in more steady position in order to continue with planking. For this planking job, the planks are fairly shorter than for the rest of deck planks (appr 2.4 cm) and the model should be steady sitting and not moving around. Did not want to cut the wood at 11pm so i found few appropriate pieces that can be utilized..
I think pictures are self explanatory. The idea is for future builds of the similar size, i can use the same cradle and just replace the foam parts that will be cut in the hull shape.
The ship fits very nicely in the cradle..
It is time to drill a hole for a rudder. Since the hole needs to be drilled very close to the edge and under certain angle, several supporting items (did not have enough hands to take a picture while holding ship and supports) are used throughout the process.
After some sanding, it is time to test the fitting of a rudder..
So, lets do planking..
And completed..
Planks are a bit oversized, hanging over board and will be sanded later.
The hole is cut for a rudder on new planked deck and rudder was tested for fitting...
Done for today.
Happy modeling..
G'day moreplovac
You're doing a great job mate. Hoped that the staining before planking has made it easier for you.
Again brilliant job.
Happymodeling
Greg
You're doing a great job mate. Hoped that the staining before planking has made it easier for you.
Again brilliant job.
Happymodeling
Greg
Good job. I’m very partial to these little colonial schooners. Do you have Hahn’s book? Lots of info there.
Thanks Dave.
I dont have that book; i am partially following Chuck Passaro's Sultana Practicum.
Cheers.
Today i had some extra hours in shipyard; here are results.
I have done deck staining, of course first had to mask the red painted parts so they don't get a golden oak patina..
Run a light layer of stain and clean the extra stain with piece of bounty. It ended up be a nice color..
After that i mounted all keel parts to the hull. Glued them to the hull with cyano gel and carpenter' yellow glue.
Then i noticed that rudder is a bit smaller that needed; for some reason i did not get rudder measurements correctly from ship plan.
So, lets do it again. I still had some extra 4mm basswood that was left over after i made a first rudder. Back on drawing board, traced old rudder, adjusted the length and start building it. It was not that hard, practice make it perfect
.
Then followed Chuck; suggestion, i did a bit of carving to make rudder a bit more appealing..
Testing the rudder fit...
And accomplishment for today..
Happy modeling..
I have done deck staining, of course first had to mask the red painted parts so they don't get a golden oak patina..
Run a light layer of stain and clean the extra stain with piece of bounty. It ended up be a nice color..
After that i mounted all keel parts to the hull. Glued them to the hull with cyano gel and carpenter' yellow glue.
Then i noticed that rudder is a bit smaller that needed; for some reason i did not get rudder measurements correctly from ship plan.
So, lets do it again. I still had some extra 4mm basswood that was left over after i made a first rudder. Back on drawing board, traced old rudder, adjusted the length and start building it. It was not that hard, practice make it perfect
.Then followed Chuck; suggestion, i did a bit of carving to make rudder a bit more appealing..
Testing the rudder fit...
And accomplishment for today..
Happy modeling..
A very good progress for only one day working...... these are the happy days for a modeler.....
Thanks Uwe and yes, you are right, now if i can just predict few lottery numbers...
Completed sanding of planked part of a deck. Bow is waiting for planking..
Then i worked on keel, filled holes with wood putty, and give a bit of a sanding after filler was dried. There are few spots that do need some extra filling...
Next, i attacked windows. Man, those are tiny one, very tiny. When i finish with Sultana i would need a new prescription glasses..
One piece of window pane, 1mmx1mm...
So, first i traced the windows on the paper.
then put a piece of plastic i cut from blueberry case and fix it on the paper. Next i started to make window panes.. After each window i put the transom on completed window to make sure it fits properly. Then next window, same process...
Completed windows and plastic sheet cut in correct size. I have made executive decision and decided only to install a vertical window panes and not horizontal. It would be very difficult to cut them into correct size and install to look normal..
After that, i put a piece of tape and paint it in flat black. The reason is that paint will not stick on plastic sheet..
It would take some time to dry it so shipyard is closed for today..
Happy modeling..
Then i worked on keel, filled holes with wood putty, and give a bit of a sanding after filler was dried. There are few spots that do need some extra filling...
Next, i attacked windows. Man, those are tiny one, very tiny. When i finish with Sultana i would need a new prescription glasses..
One piece of window pane, 1mmx1mm...
So, first i traced the windows on the paper.
then put a piece of plastic i cut from blueberry case and fix it on the paper. Next i started to make window panes.. After each window i put the transom on completed window to make sure it fits properly. Then next window, same process...
Completed windows and plastic sheet cut in correct size. I have made executive decision and decided only to install a vertical window panes and not horizontal. It would be very difficult to cut them into correct size and install to look normal..
After that, i put a piece of tape and paint it in flat black. The reason is that paint will not stick on plastic sheet..
It would take some time to dry it so shipyard is closed for today..
Happy modeling..
Today i spent some time building a cup rail.
It was cut in one piece, from a sheet from basswood not supplied with the kit. From the same piece i cut a margin plank that will accept the joggled deck planks...
The outer lines shows cup rail and inner lines margin plank.
The margin plank was cut from template; first i made a template from cardboard, cut to dimension and trimmed to fit.
Then transferred to the basswood ...
.. and cut with #11 knife or with scroll saw if you have one..
The basswood sheet i had was a bit thicker and needed some sanding ..
Cap rail cut to the shape..
Both pieces done.
Stained.. Forgot that cap rail should be painted black. Oh well, will paint it black than. Final sanding will be done once i install cap rail.
Then i painted another layer of red paint, just to make it nice and uniform in preparation for cap rail and margin plank installation.
Happy modeling..
It was cut in one piece, from a sheet from basswood not supplied with the kit. From the same piece i cut a margin plank that will accept the joggled deck planks...
The outer lines shows cup rail and inner lines margin plank.
The margin plank was cut from template; first i made a template from cardboard, cut to dimension and trimmed to fit.
Then transferred to the basswood ...
.. and cut with #11 knife or with scroll saw if you have one..
The basswood sheet i had was a bit thicker and needed some sanding ..
Cap rail cut to the shape..
Both pieces done.
Stained.. Forgot that cap rail should be painted black. Oh well, will paint it black than. Final sanding will be done once i install cap rail.
Then i painted another layer of red paint, just to make it nice and uniform in preparation for cap rail and margin plank installation.
Happy modeling..
Today i planking the deck at the bow area..
This area does require a bit of an extra attention since deck planks will be joggled into margin plank. The margin plank was glued first into place. Then edge plank was glued and deck plank started...
The first plank was installed in the middle of the deck and other followed on one side. I was thinking to go one plank from both end of the first and continue with that pace but for some reason i simply forgot and get my self completing one half of the deck...
Then plank joggling exercise started..
It will be very interesting to match the same joggling pattern on other side...
During this process a piece of keel at the bow area simply snapped. I got the piece and will be trying to glue it back on. Worst case scenario i will replace most of the keel that is located in the bow area.. Will see how repair goes..
Then i glued windows to transome..
That is all for today...
Happy modeling..
This area does require a bit of an extra attention since deck planks will be joggled into margin plank. The margin plank was glued first into place. Then edge plank was glued and deck plank started...
The first plank was installed in the middle of the deck and other followed on one side. I was thinking to go one plank from both end of the first and continue with that pace but for some reason i simply forgot and get my self completing one half of the deck...
Then plank joggling exercise started..
It will be very interesting to match the same joggling pattern on other side...
During this process a piece of keel at the bow area simply snapped. I got the piece and will be trying to glue it back on. Worst case scenario i will replace most of the keel that is located in the bow area.. Will see how repair goes..
Then i glued windows to transome..
That is all for today...
Happy modeling..
Good work with the joggling of the deck planks...
.....It is good that you realized the damage early, so you could re-glue it on the place. I am crossing the fingers, that the appearance of the repair will look acceptable.
It is every time the problem, when parts like the keel and stem are made out of one piece of wood, than the grain of the timber is in one direction wrong and such damage can happen. keep
.....It is good that you realized the damage early, so you could re-glue it on the place. I am crossing the fingers, that the appearance of the repair will look acceptable.
It is every time the problem, when parts like the keel and stem are made out of one piece of wood, than the grain of the timber is in one direction wrong and such damage can happen. keep
Good work with the joggling of the deck planks...
.....It is good that you realized the damage early, so you could re-glue it on the place. I am crossing the fingers, that the appearance of the repair will look acceptable.
It is every time the problem, when parts like the keel and stem are made out of one piece of wood, than the grain of the timber is in one direction wrong and such damage can happen. keep
Hi Uwe, i am also very keen to see the result; that part of a keel was made out of three pieces so i was surprised that actually snapped..
Cheers..
Good work with the joggling of the deck planks...
.....It is good that you realized the damage early, so you could re-glue it on the place. I am crossing the fingers, that the appearance of the repair will look acceptable.
It is every time the problem, when parts like the keel and stem are made out of one piece of wood, than the grain of the timber is in one direction wrong and such damage can happen. keep
G'day moreplovac
You are going great guns mate
and I also have to echos Uwe's statement. He said it all' that's needed.Havagooday and happymodeling
Greg
The deck planking is done. Unfortunately. Not sure for you guys, but for some reason deck planking is my favorite part of model making process... Anyhow, a bit changed presentation process follows..
Done for today:
How did i get here?
First i completed second half of a deck planking processes. Come up with template for plank joggling and transfer it to second half of a deck, after 4 planks being installed.
Then, planking started... each plank measured and cut/sand to fit correctly....and completed...
You will notice a small stringer at the bottom right-hand corner; it appears that bow is a bit wider at that area than 19 planks x 3mm (wide) so a small stringer (hope that have a term correctly) has been placed...
Then a tree simulation happened, in the same matter as previously...
After filler was dried, deck sanding took place. After sanding the whole deck, tiny layer of golden oak stain has been applied on all deck. Extra stain was removed with piece of bounty and the end result is up there, somewhere..
I installed transom after this.
Looking towards transom, from bow..
And testing of rudder fitting..
I glued broken part of bow keel; it is fine now, still to make a decision to live with it or to make another, new part..
Then i painted cap rails for tomorrow work..
Tomorrow i will also put a coat of varnish on the deck to protect it...
Happy modeling..
Done for today:
How did i get here?
First i completed second half of a deck planking processes. Come up with template for plank joggling and transfer it to second half of a deck, after 4 planks being installed.
Then, planking started... each plank measured and cut/sand to fit correctly....and completed...
You will notice a small stringer at the bottom right-hand corner; it appears that bow is a bit wider at that area than 19 planks x 3mm (wide) so a small stringer (hope that have a term correctly) has been placed...
Then a tree simulation happened, in the same matter as previously...
After filler was dried, deck sanding took place. After sanding the whole deck, tiny layer of golden oak stain has been applied on all deck. Extra stain was removed with piece of bounty and the end result is up there, somewhere..
I installed transom after this.
Looking towards transom, from bow..
And testing of rudder fitting..
I glued broken part of bow keel; it is fine now, still to make a decision to live with it or to make another, new part..
Then i painted cap rails for tomorrow work..
Tomorrow i will also put a coat of varnish on the deck to protect it...
Happy modeling..
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Hallo again, the appearance of the deck planking is realy good, it is looking very realistic. You did a very good job with making the joggling symetric, not an easy job, but you solved it very good.
and I can fully understand you, the deckplanking works is also one of my favourites. It is also the part of the ship, which most people, also not nautical fans like us are looking.
I have one small hint for the nailing of the deck planks. You made a very good shift pattern with your nailing, but I realized, that the nails at the end of the planks are missing. I am not sure, but I think it would be necessary to keep the planks down and fix them.
I used your original photo and marked some locations I mean with red dotts.......please take a look
and I can fully understand you, the deckplanking works is also one of my favourites. It is also the part of the ship, which most people, also not nautical fans like us are looking.
I have one small hint for the nailing of the deck planks. You made a very good shift pattern with your nailing, but I realized, that the nails at the end of the planks are missing. I am not sure, but I think it would be necessary to keep the planks down and fix them.
I used your original photo and marked some locations I mean with red dotts.......please take a look
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Hi Uwe,
thanks for your feedback; good catch.. Not sure how i missed those few planks.. Will be corrected today..
Cheers.
Not much free time today but there is always some time for shipyard...
Today i created small rabbet down to the face of the rudder. It does not appear on the kit plan but as per Chuck's practicum, it is a nice little detail common on rudders at that time, specifically for schooners. It is time to get my micro compound table dirty again.
Marked the rabbet line on rudder..
Little setup to get it going..
During the process..
Also, i have done some touch up paint work on transom. It took me more time to clean the brush afterwards then to do actual paint work.
Then i installed cap rails, except one cap rail on bow area. Had to paint the bottom side of it before installation.
Next would be to add few more tree-nail holes in the bow area. Thanks Uwek..
So that is all for today..
Happy modeling.
Today i created small rabbet down to the face of the rudder. It does not appear on the kit plan but as per Chuck's practicum, it is a nice little detail common on rudders at that time, specifically for schooners. It is time to get my micro compound table dirty again.
Marked the rabbet line on rudder..
Little setup to get it going..
During the process..
Also, i have done some touch up paint work on transom. It took me more time to clean the brush afterwards then to do actual paint work.
Then i installed cap rails, except one cap rail on bow area. Had to paint the bottom side of it before installation.
Next would be to add few more tree-nail holes in the bow area. Thanks Uwek..
So that is all for today..
Happy modeling.