It’s looking very nice, but why go to the trouble of making working hinges for doors that will not be used? Card stock painted black is very good for simulating ironwork.
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The Mighty Panokseon (Plank Board Ship)
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If you’re going to make metal objects like door hinges, check out K&S brass tubing. Their round tubing is available in diameters down to 1/32”. They also offer square and rectangular sizes. A tiny piece of 1/32” tubing soldered to a small brass strap would make a hinge. Look for it on Amazon.
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Because I’m not right in the head. I feel that I’ve been clear on that in this log.
But in all seriousness, as practice for the exterior doors, which will be visible. Mistakes are inevitable for first attempts at anything, so better to have those mistakes on the hard/impossible to see sections.
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I originally thought about brass tubing, but the ones I had on hand was slightly too wide. I might give the tutorial Giampy65 posted a try, but if not, I'll revisit the tubing method as I didn't know they had some that ran down to the diameter. Good timing too since my coworker just gave me his old sodering iron about a month back.
I admire Giampy's work as well - but he is working at a larger scale than you. I think Namubiiru and Roger have it right...
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A fair point to be sure. I still feel I'd like to give it another go, but if the second interior door doesn't go well, then perhaps static doors are the way to go for the this build. Cursed be my overly amitious nature!
Regarding post #39, Process-wise, are you creating the eyes/hooks out of 3mm lengths? Or, making them at the end of a longer piece, then cutting to length?
Been there. Done that.
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I make them out of a longer strip and then cut them to length after. It is a lot easier to handle that way.
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Got a little sidetracked again by work, but during that time, I tried experiment around a bit more with the hinges. Tried the sodering iron, but either the pieces are too small or I simply lack the skill to do it with the precision necessary (likely both). The results were so ugly, it wasn't even worth documenting. I'll try one more method, but at this point, I'm ready to swallow my pride and go with static doors.
But on the positive, while the hinges were at work work pissing me off, I did finish up my work on redoing the stern tails. I fixed up the new planks with the tail wings and added a few aesthenic touches to bring a little more life to it. I'm fairly satisfied with the results.
The original stern section on the left, the new one on the right. It doesn't have as dramatic an upward sweep as seen in ancient art and some reporductions, but it still looks much better and may be a bit more realistic to the the actual build of the ship.
I also added the horizontal support beams. This took a little debate on my part as they're not seen in any of the old artwork, but are present on all modern reproductions of both the panokseon and geobukseon. I ultimately decided to include them as the medieval Korean artwork of the ship isn't exact and (I'd like to assume) modern engineers must have had a good reason for their inclusion. Depending on the reproduction, they have anywher between one and four beams. I opted for two, and included added a horizontal support right under the ends of each beam (circled in red). They're not really based on anything specific, but an amalgamation of several ideas of how these beams may have been supported. I landed on this one as it looked the best and made the most sense in my mind.
Two photos that helped me make some determinations on the stern design.
On my next post, I'll have my final verdict on those dang doors!
But on the positive, while the hinges were at work work pissing me off, I did finish up my work on redoing the stern tails. I fixed up the new planks with the tail wings and added a few aesthenic touches to bring a little more life to it. I'm fairly satisfied with the results.
The original stern section on the left, the new one on the right. It doesn't have as dramatic an upward sweep as seen in ancient art and some reporductions, but it still looks much better and may be a bit more realistic to the the actual build of the ship.
I also added the horizontal support beams. This took a little debate on my part as they're not seen in any of the old artwork, but are present on all modern reproductions of both the panokseon and geobukseon. I ultimately decided to include them as the medieval Korean artwork of the ship isn't exact and (I'd like to assume) modern engineers must have had a good reason for their inclusion. Depending on the reproduction, they have anywher between one and four beams. I opted for two, and included added a horizontal support right under the ends of each beam (circled in red). They're not really based on anything specific, but an amalgamation of several ideas of how these beams may have been supported. I landed on this one as it looked the best and made the most sense in my mind.
Two photos that helped me make some determinations on the stern design.
On my next post, I'll have my final verdict on those dang doors!
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Coming along nicely!
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Finally Labor Day Weekend! Not much progress to report right now. The hinges have officially defeated me, so the doors will be static. But a few other things coming very soon.
In the meantime, if anyone wants to guess what these might be for, by all means.
In the meantime, if anyone wants to guess what these might be for, by all means.
Are those to simulate the beam ends that extend out the side of the superstructure?
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Right you are! I wasn’t sure if I wanted to include these at all due to the fact that I’m not these pegs would be visible on the actual construction. But I ultimately figured that at the very least it’s a nice visual detail and provides some technical insight of the hulls construction.
I should have been done by now, but I screwed up the first attempt by cutting the pieces too thickly. So I took them off and started over again, this time channeling my inner Paulie Cicero (kudos to anyone who gets that). That god I forsook CA glue for wood glue months ago, otherwise that screw up would have be a b**** to fix.
Coming along, hope to come back to it and finish up tonight. Hopefully I’ll get around to some other parts tomorrow.
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The wood pegs came out alright. Now moving onto the upper framing timbers for the main deck. For some reason, it took about a month for my local hobby store to restock the 3/16 x 3/16 dowels I needed.
The set up with the A-clips may be a bit janky, but so has just about everything I’d done so far on this project.
The set up with the A-clips may be a bit janky, but so has just about everything I’d done so far on this project.