Vasa - 1:65 DeAgostini [COMPLETED BUILD]

dockattner said:
No planking. There will be a cast metal decorative piece added that will strengthen it but I have to paint that first. Right now it’s not fragile - just vulnerable. I have already knocked about my kevels several times. Entering a new phase of my build and I need to develop some different habits when I’m working.
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Looking at it from the bow, it looks like there are some horizontal pieces behind the X's.
 
Vfordyce said:
Looking at it from the bow, it looks like there are some horizontal pieces behind the X's.
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Hey Vic, what you are seeing is the back side of the wood carvings - at least that's my interpretation. That said, I know of at least one other builder who agrees with you and he chose to plank the back side of the framing. His turned out nice and clean so I might reconsider once I see what it looks like to see the back of the carved decorations...

The image that I am showing is quite rare! I can only find 4 or 5 views of this part of the ship - and only 2 show this level of detail. Unless someone has personal knowledge (they visited the museum) getting this part right is not a slam dunk. For the record, my version is somewhat imperfect: the horizontal element near the bottom should be straight - but DeAg forced me to build that piece as a curve because of the decorative cast metal piece that is forthcoming...

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Building this framework was not hard at all (notwithstanding the significant injury I sustained with my xacto blade). But getting it to fit onto a kit that had no intention of including it (and making it look like it belonged) was quite a challenge. I spent 10x the time noodling on how to do this than I did making it! But I am learning that is simply part of the fun...
 
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dockattner said:
Hey Vic, what you are seeing is the back side of the wood carvings - at least that's my interpretation. That said, I know of at least one other builder who agrees with you and he chose to plank the back side of the framing. His turned out nice and clean so I might reconsider once I see what it looks like to see the back of the carved decorations...

The image that I am showing is quite rare! I can only find 4 or 5 views of this part of the ship - and only 2 show this level of detail. Unless someone has personal knowledge (they visited the museum) getting this part right is not a slam dunk. For the record, my version is somewhat imperfect: the horizontal element near the bottom should be straight - but DeAg forced me to build that piece as a curve because of the decorative cast metal piece that is forthcoming...

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Building this framework was not hard at all (notwithstanding the significant injury I sustained with my xacto blade). But getting it to fit onto a kit that had no intention of including it (and making it look like it belonged) was quite a challenge. I spent 10x the time noodling on how to do this than I did making it! But I am learning that is simply part of the fun...
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I think the original builder just forgot to finish it. Or maybe the planks fell off when it sank.
 
dockattner said:
Hey Vic, what you are seeing is the back side of the wood carvings - at least that's my interpretation. That said, I know of at least one other builder who agrees with you and he chose to plank the back side of the framing. His turned out nice and clean so I might reconsider once I see what it looks like to see the back of the carved decorations...

The image that I am showing is quite rare! I can only find 4 or 5 views of this part of the ship - and only 2 show this level of detail. Unless someone has personal knowledge (they visited the museum) getting this part right is not a slam dunk. For the record, my version is somewhat imperfect: the horizontal element near the bottom should be straight - but DeAg forced me to build that piece as a curve because of the decorative cast metal piece that is forthcoming...

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Building this framework was not hard at all (notwithstanding the significant injury I sustained with my xacto blade). But getting it to fit onto a kit that had no intention of including it (and making it look like it belonged) was quite a challenge. I spent 10x the time noodling on how to do this than I did making it! But I am learning that is simply part of the fun...
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I think my best xacto injury was when I was 10... trying to cut off the pegs on a Battleship game ships. Still have that scar.....so far, no injuries on my current build.
 
dockattner said:
How I spent my Saturday afternoon...

Most everyone on this forum will have seen the famous stern of the Wasa:

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What is less common is the view from the other side:

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The DeAg kit omits the wooden framework entirely so I had to make my own.

First, I came up with a design (as you can see I'm no draftsman :p ).

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And a few hours later...Voila!

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For the betting crowd I have set the over/under on the number of times I will break this off during the balance of the project at 11...
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Paul, that’s a very nice en tight investment for a Saturday Afternoon. :)
I loved your eye for details, adding them in addition to the kit and scratch build on the model.
Regards, Peter
 
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Hi Paul,
I am pretty sure that there WAS planking underneath the aft decorations on the Vasa (and on any other ship for that matter) - and I saw the original Vasa in Stockholm!
Otherwise I hope that your finger had been sawn back into place in the meantime after that dispute with the Exacto blade!
János
 
Hallo there. I will consider an approach to my building of the Vasa, which takes a lot of reading and trying, so some work going on with " dummy canons " thinking of making new " after cabins ". And I started painting some figures, that is a pain in the butt.........

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dockattner said:
Hey Vic, what you are seeing is the back side of the wood carvings - at least that's my interpretation. That said, I know of at least one other builder who agrees with you and he chose to plank the back side of the framing. His turned out nice and clean so I might reconsider once I see what it looks like to see the back of the carved decorations...

The image that I am showing is quite rare! I can only find 4 or 5 views of this part of the ship - and only 2 show this level of detail. Unless someone has personal knowledge (they visited the museum) getting this part right is not a slam dunk. For the record, my version is somewhat imperfect: the horizontal element near the bottom should be straight - but DeAg forced me to build that piece as a curve because of the decorative cast metal piece that is forthcoming...

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Building this framework was not hard at all (notwithstanding the significant injury I sustained with my xacto blade). But getting it to fit onto a kit that had no intention of including it (and making it look like it belonged) was quite a challenge. I spent 10x the time noodling on how to do this than I did making it! But I am learning that is simply part of the fun...
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Paul, I never trust myself with an xacto knife! Invariably, it’s Murphy’s law with those little blades....they cut so clean and quick! You don’t even feel pain, you just say “oh $hit”, look down and there’s no blood....for about 5 seconds and then all hell breaks loose....ha! Just love your work!!!!Actually, I’m in so much awe that I get intimidated reading your thread....but it helps me so much in making me push forward on my own build. Thank you!
 
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Paul, I never trust myself with an xacto knife! Invariably, it’s Murphy’s law with those little blades....they cut so clean and quick! You don’t even feel pain, you just say “oh $hit”, look down and there’s no blood....for about 5 seconds and then all hell breaks loose....ha! Just love your work!!!!Actually, I’m in so much awe that I get intimidated reading your thread....but it helps me so much in making me push forward on my own build. Thank you!
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Hi Rick,
Your description of the xacto injury is PURE PRECISION. Not even really sure how it happened - I saw the cut - thought to myself: hmm, not bleeding, that's odd, must not be as bad as it looks - and then the damn broke... This one was serious and I have been out of commission except for painting decorations.
And please don't feel anything other than sympathy when you are reading my build log. I am just as much a beginner as you are and I have made more mistakes than I care to discuss. Sometimes I need to address them on the forum because of prior posts; but what I specialize in is doing stuff over until I think it's all I have to offer. Someone on the forum has a "signature" that goes something like this: Success is 10% skill and 90% patience (I wish I could give credit to this individual - all I remember was it was not written in English). I may not have the quote exactly right but the sentiment is spot on. Patience is king (once the bleeding stops...) Redface .
 
Dammit! I don't understand why I don't get regular updates on all of these logs that I follow with tremendous interest. Paul, I'm sorry, but I have to backtrack all the way to page 45 to catch-up. I've received nothing, since this page, when I was last posting to your page. What is going on, here, I wonder? If I go to the top of the build-page, I can only "un-watch." There is nothing in my SPAM folder. This is very frustrating.
 
The port-lid commentary presents an interesting problem for modelers. From a purely realistic standpoint, the lifting lid-lanyards are not placed high enough above the ports to enable the crew to pull them right up against the wales; a 3/4 open, is probably more likely under the best circumstances. On the other hand, we are making a model of exceptional detail, here, and what's the point of going to that effort, if one isn't going to show it to best advantage? I agree with the 100% lid-lift for the sake of aesthetics, and the added benefit that I (personally) won't have to paint the unseen side of the port lid :D
 
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I really laughed at your note to younger self!! This is all so true, in so many ways ROTFROTFROTF

And, I can really relate to the CA allergy - that stuff is TOXIC. Definitely feel it in my head, if I don't ventilate properly. I will continue catching up, but will take a break for a minute.
 
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