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VOC SPIEGELRETOURSCHIP BATAVIA 1628 - KOLDERSTOK 1:72

@Clair G Thank you for your VERY kind comments - it is very much appreciated.

You are absolutely right about the @Kolderstok kit. It is an amazing kit to work with and as I have previously mentioned, the customer service of Hans van Nieuwkoop (owner) is absolutely superb! I will find it very difficult to work with another kit (although I do want to try a POF build at some stage. I just have to convince Hans to produce a POF model :D )
 
@Clair G Choosing the Kolderstok model is the really difficult part. The Zeven Provincien would be the ultimate challenge, but I like the Statenjacht too. I applaud your goal to build one of these models in future - if there is anything that I can help with, just let me know.
 
Heinrich said:
@Uwek Hi Uwe. Thank you very much for your comments and suggestions. It is great to have you comment.

On the issue of model-size scale - this boat is 110mm, the bijboot for the Batavia is 120mm - so size-wise there shouldn't be a problem. The Haarlem had two "lifeboats" - a skiff and a proper longboat.

From Bruno Werz's thesis:

These, together with the skiff and the longboat from Haarlem were used in an attempt to free the ship. Around noon Haarlem’s longboat was sent to the beach together with First Mate Cornelis Wallis and some other men, including two carpenters and their tools, to build a tent. On 29 March the Haarlem's longboat transferred a quantity of mace, 82 bales of camphor and about 80 bales of cinnamon to Witte Olifant in two trips.

From this we could gather that the Haarlem did have a longboat and that it was not small either. As far as the historical accuracy goes you are right but the cutters from Master Korabel and Falkonet that I could find, were much too small (75mm), so it is a case of the lesser of two evils.
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According to the books I've read on the Batavia, which would have had the same on the Haarlem, there was room for at least 30 men, they sailed from Abrolhos Islands in Australia to Batavia, in Indonesia, that must have been some boat and seamanship. You're talking 20 oarsmen plus others, that would have been pretty full boat. Amazing story. The bigger the better, Heinrich. Cheers
 
@frankieg: My records also indicate 20 oarsmen - hence the fact that I went for the 20-oar longboat. I ordered directly from Mariya of Falkonet. I just sent her a personal message and did the transaction on the forum.
 
Heinrich,
I am a bit hesitating to let you know that Dutch ships had two auxiliary vessels: a 'chaloup' for transporting people (round stem and stern, flat counter with side boards, carvel bottom, clinker sides, length 4/5 of the 'boot', mostly stored on deck, see picture 1 and 2) and a 'boot' (made for transport of goods and other heavy duties, round bow and stern, flat bottomed with no keel, clinker sides, length equal to the beam of the ship, or 1/4 of its length, with a windlass for bringing out the anchor and the possibility to sail, mostly towed with a rope coming through one of the 'cardinals hats' near the gun ports in the stern, see picture 3 and 4). Here are some Delftship impressions:
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All and all: it does not seem a good idea to 'borrow' a longboat out of another tradition of sailing.
If necessary I can supply you with lines plans, just let me know.
Ab
 
Heinrich said:
I ordered directly from Mariya of Falkonet. I just sent her a personal message and did the transaction on the forum.
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For any of you, who want to purchase Falkonet products can simply click on our 'Merchants and Vendors' side on the right (see below). You will have to scroll down to see.

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The sites operates in both Russian and English languages, and price reflects both currencies: rubles and US dollars. If you need just a English translation, please reach out to me. :)
 
@Ab Hoving Dear Ab. Please do not be "hesitant" to give me this information - it is very much appreciated and if this longboat is not suitable for the Haarlem, I will simply use it on later build - that is no problem. Your detailed information is very much appreciated. I am learning as I ago along and advice like this is precious. I would really appreciate the plans for the 'chaloup' to be deck mounted.
 
Heinrich said:
@frankieg: My records also indicate 20 oarsmen - hence the fact that I went for the 20-oar longboat. I ordered directly from Mariya of Falkonet. I just sent her a personal message and did the transaction on the forum.
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Here's the replica they built in 2002, now infront of Batavia museum in Geraldton, Western Australia.batavia longboat low res.jpg
 
Dear Friends

I received the Falkonet Longboat today and even though it will not form part of the Haarlem's build, I wanted to share it with you.

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The package arrived after exactly 10 days via Russian Post.

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Inside the cardboard box Falkonet uses a flexible, but very sturdy plastic box to accommodate the kit.

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Once that is removed, the kit comes packaged in a Zip-loc bag.

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Full inventory and identification list of parts.

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The Russian-only instructions.

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Beautifully finished building jig.

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"Bulkheads" There are two sheets, but I have only included one in the pictures.

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Planking strips in Pear Wood (sorry for the shade!)

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Decks, Gratings and other miscellaneous fittings.

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Laser-etched parts (mostly rudder pintles).

As some of you may or may not know, I have ordered the Leudo Vanaino from Falkonet and judging by the quality of this longboat kit, I cannot wait for the Leudo.

In the meantime, work on the Haarlem has progressed well and if all goes well in my next two days (tomorrow and Thursday), I should have an update ready for you guys.

Keep well, stay safe and thank you all for following.

Warm Greetings - Heinrich
 
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