Congratulations on starting a new project. I signed up with colleagues for observation. True, the seats were only on the balcony, but I will see
Frankly, I was scared sh...less, when I pushed the buttons to order my POF Bluenose. That became even worse, when I opened Pandora's box.
I have to grant
you, the lines of the Xebec are absolutely beautiful and I'm quite sure, that when you declare the project to be completed, a one of a kind Xebec will be proudly displayed.
I see you are embracing my approach to ship building, which is not to be completely restrained, and let artistic license prevail over historical accuracy!Good morning Johan. 2 reasons :
1. I was looking at POF builds @kidsgalore Le Requin (stunning) and of course yours and @Peter Voogt bluenose and you guys scared me. I don’t think I’m ready for POF yet.
2. I wanted a model for a space in my bar and was size limited. I wanted a Xebec and the Cazador was the only model to fit nicely. I always knew I was going to change it up a whole lot as the Cazador was not a sexy Xebec like the Le Requin and some other Arabian ones I saw.
Thus : Grants contemporary Xebec was born.
I must say I am having a complete blast just doing my own thing- it’s like freedom and not having to be limited to some design or chasing that replication. Feels like when we climb on our off road bikes into the wilderness with no route or preplan - just hit the dirt and go…..and get lost a few times
Cheers Grant
Good morning Sasha. Great to have you onboard. I do tend to just write my story some…Grant, hi. How much I missed. You started a new build and you've already completed 11 pages. How do you manage to write so much?
. Good morning Johan. Thank you. a POF is definitely on my agenda….one day. Cheers GrantFrankly, I was scared sh...less, when I pushed the buttons to order my POF Bluenose. That became even worse, when I opened Pandora's box.
I was rather anxious, when assembling the frames and keel and it wasn't until I completed the planking of the hull that I dared declaring that part of the build a success.
There's no doubt in my mind that you would pull off a POF-build successful.
I have to grant
Good morning Dean. I agree. I am going to have to pull myself back a little and do some research into this period as to how these Xebecs deck fittings, waterways, cannons, hull planking etc are so there is a defined period build. Still just getting shape and first planking layer done so not too NB right now. Cheers GrantI see you are embracing my approach to ship building, which is not to be completely restrained, and let artistic license prevail over historical accuracy!
It is like a bird being let out of a cage! I don't want to be caged into a strict regimen of how to build, but rather enjoy the ability to make changes as I see fit.
That does not mean I completely abandon historical accuracy, but rather I don't try to be 100% accurate, where it stifles artistic creativity.
Thank you Robert.
. Grant being Grant.
Just out of curiosity; will you be adding the second layer after adding the bow, keel and stern parts?Good morning
1st planking layer. My approach here is not recommended
Compared to the Victory this is a simple hull so the planking just needs to ensure symmetry and follow the faired bulkheads. I just let each plank follow their own lines, no dividing into bands or measurements. Clearly the second layer will be different.A little tapering at the bow only so far.
I use CA glue for nails other than where the planks twist and need time to place.
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Modifications, redesigns etc are all fitting together well- the patchwork doesn’t matter as long as it is strong ,symmetrical and works for the outer layer.
Cheers Grant
Good evening Peter. I am very happy how the shape is coming together. This is my first experience with veneer so I will see how that goes. I am curious - Is there a reason why the wales need to be put on first? I’m glad you have brought this up as I was not going to. I am going to have my wales very different from the Cazador plans. Thanks Grant
Good evening Johan. I am thinking about doing the second layer after I place the false keel and stem. I want to add a Rabbet but it will be sooo tiny if I stick with the veneer second layer. I am researching this as it is a first for me but I am not sure the Rabbet is required with veneer. Cheers Grant
Good evening Paul, Jan and Heinrich .I can’t believe how quick this first layer is going on. A very simple and easy hull shape. Also not worrying about patterns, bands, plank numbers or even tapering to the mm they just fly on
.I am very happy with the shape and how the planks lie on my extra bulkhead and reshaped stern and transom. . It doesn’t look pretty so hopefully the second layer will bring out that good looking and sexy finish.
My very personal, not so objective opinion; it's the mark of a master designer.Also not worrying about patterns, bands, plank numbers or even tapering to the mm they just fly on
Ahh I get what you are saying now Peter . My wales will be positioned at the widest part of the hull however the look and feel will differ to the Occre Cazador. They will follow the natural running line of my hull and may appear slightly more curved than the Cazador by virtue of my hull shape being longer. Well that’s the plan anywayYes, the wales are placed on the widest parts of the ship and the stroking (running of the line in ships length) are determined by the wales. Alle planks below the lowerst wale are tapered at bow and stern, between and above the wales the planks keep their width over the length of the ship. So, the planking above the wale follows the line of the wales. Below the wales the planking is different due to the shape of the hull and that is why you need to taper and calculate the width of the planks. It's a golden rule however determines on the time period and country of origin. But for Cazador you can follow this rule.
Just read my mini tutorial and hopefully it will help you with the second layer.
Cazador Xebec 1750 - OcCre - scale 1:60 [COMPLETED BUILD]
Great work Peter. I love your clean way of building and the walnut adds a lot of value.shipsofscale.com
Be careful not to make the curve on the stern of the ship too steap. I think on Cazador the running of the wales are pretty good....
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and I will certainly use this as a planking guide. Thank you. Cheers Grant
