118 Gun French three-decker - Le Commerce de Marseille / L'Ocean - scale 1:72

Soo here we go. First cannon completed.

I wanted to do something between maximum simplification and realism. It didn't work out perfectly because when gluing, the rear part went up too much. I know that this is not the most beautiful carriage in the world,but I checked a few things, learned a few things- made some progress.
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WojtasS said:
.... It didn't work out perfectly because when gluing, the rear part went up too much......
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For the lower decks I think that the carriage in principle is very good - enough details
But you are right with the height - I think also, that the muzzle should be slightly higher compared to the gunport frame
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Very good work my friend
 
Huc Bernard said:
Hello,
the previous picture shows an English cannon.
Here is a picture of a French cannonView attachment 335455
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I know, but I guess that the french guns needed the same space in the gunport like the english

My comment was only related to the muzzle inside the rectangle opening of the gun port

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the muzzle is too low (because of the higher rear part @WojtasS mentioned)

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Huc Bernard said:
Sorry, I didn't understand.
Here is what J.Boudriot drew on a French ship concerning the position of the cannons at the time of the fight.
Note that the guns are leaning against the planking, contrary to the previous drawing.

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Bernard
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excuse me, to build according to the plans of Master Boudriot it is advisable to follow the volumes of the 74 guns and the book of Du Monceau, to be sure of the vessel

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Huc Bernard said:
Sorry, I didn't understand.
Here is what J.Boudriot drew on a French ship concerning the position of the cannons at the time of the fight.
Note that the guns are leaning against the planking, contrary to the previous drawing.

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Bernard
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It seems to be a pure translation problem - I refer only to the height of the gun (up or down) in the gunport, which is looking too small in the photos by Wojtas
see my green marks
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These are the views from the Le Commerce monograph from Gérard

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Wojtas - sorry for the lengthy posts
 
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Uwek said:
For the lower decks I think that the carriage in principle is very good - enough details
But you are right with the height - I think also, that the muzzle should be slightly higher compared to the gunport frame
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Very good work my friend
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Thank you Uwe


Uwek said:
I know, but I guess that the french guns needed the same space in the gunport like the english

My comment was only related to the muzzle inside the rectangle opening of the gun port

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the muzzle is too low (because of the higher rear part @WojtasS mentioned)

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This's little my fault. I should mention it's not 1:1 in position to plans. I just put it sort of in the middle. So mesuring any height or distance is meaningless(sorry :rolleyes:). I jut wanted to test if carriage's wheels would be visible. They're bearly which means I can follow @CRI-CRI way of making them

French war-ship Saint-Philippe 1693 - scale 1/72 - from Lemineur monograph [COMPLETED BUILD]

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"Wojtas - sorry for the lengthy posts"
No problem. The more information the better
 
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Huc Bernard said:
Sorry, I didn't understand.
Here is what J.Boudriot drew on a French ship concerning the position of the cannons at the time of the fight.
Note that the guns are leaning against the planking, contrary to the previous drawing.

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Bernard
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Yes. I'll make them like on your picture. On plans they have some kind of shelf, but this's just too much for my and such simplified way is ok .
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Frank48 said:
excuse me, to build according to the plans of Master Boudriot it is advisable to follow the volumes of the 74 guns and the book of Du Monceau, to be sure of the vessel
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Plans are made by Mr Gérard Delacroix. I also have Master Boudriot's 3 volumes about 74gs
 
WojtasS said:
Plans are made by Mr Gérard Delacroix. I also have Master Boudriot's 3 volumes about 74gs
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Wojtas, nothing changes even if they are drawings by Mr. Gérard Delacroix ,
there is a passage of first acquaintance,
gunboats have the dimensions in relation to the caliber of the guns, also in relation to the decks
 
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With DEEPL translator :
For the pieces of calibers 36, 24, 18 we fix on the spacer a mobile crescent made up of two parts connected by two hinges. When this crescent is knocked down, it forms a projection in front of the flanges, which makes it possible to take by this circular projection a support against the wall, facilitating the side pointing.
This is a new arrangement.
 
Huc Bernard said:
Sorry I don't have the English translation of "croissant".
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Here is the english version of the book

Book review - NAVAL ARTILLERY French navy 1650-1850" - NEW ENGLISH VERSION - by Jean Boudriot and Hubert Berti

Book Review: NAVAL ARTILLERY French navy 1650-1850 An Historical and Technical Study Set of 93 plates. NEW ENGLISH VERSION by Jean Boudriot and Hubert Berti Translated by François Fougerat This book in french language was over a long time one of the Basic Books published by ancre...
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english - "folding lip"

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