A Dutch Fluyt in shell first, reconstructing the "Ghost ship" scale 1:36

You mean the last set of files to get out of Russia...THOSE files (that I can't get anymore)???
Paul, these are mini chisels from Mihail Kirsanov. As far as I know, he is no longer accepting orders as a few years back. Unless he changed his mind.

Set # 1:
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Set #2:
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Paul, these are mini chisels from Mihail Kirsanov. As far as I know, he is no longer accepting orders as a few years back. Unless he changed his mind.

Set # 1:
58bc20db4b219_Kirsanovtoolset.thumb.jpg.bac4e7b58019bd187be753a0212d146c.jpg

Set #2:
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Yes. I placed an order a year ago (longer?) and I'm in the cue - but he emailed me and told me that he is no longer permitted to ship to the US.
 
Paul, these are mini chisels from Mihail Kirsanov. As far as I know, he is no longer accepting orders as a few years back. Unless he changed his mind.

Set # 1:
58bc20db4b219_Kirsanovtoolset.thumb.jpg.bac4e7b58019bd187be753a0212d146c.jpg

Set #2:
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Yes I have an extended set 1 with some additional curved chisels. Ordered it last year and it was delivered just before the Ukraine war.
It was the last one delivered he said afterwards. Indeed due to delivery problems.
 
@Maarten, @dockattner Dear Maarten and Paul. You gents have made my day with your "fork"-talk. (It shows just how far I had to go back in Maarten's log to catch up.)

Now, Maarten, be honest with me - did the Fluyt's keel really have to be cut in half, or were you just having withdrawal symptoms at not having something else to cut in half?
 
Next are the depth markings in Amsterdam feet.
The example for the depth marks I took from the E81 wreck from again the pinas Samuel.
Stem
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Stern
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You clearly see the different markings on SB and PS side, roman numerals on the SB side and alternative rotated roman numerals with dots on the PS side.
9 being VIIII is not a mistake but realy written like that.

On the bow the numerals are even in mirror image.

On my model first I measured the Amsterdam feet.
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Set out the height of the roman numerals, which is 1/3 of an Amsterdam foot.
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Followed by adding the roman numerals.
The 5 at the bottom I took also from the E81 wreck, here a 4 is carved, but this fluyt is deeper in the water so I changed it to 5 at 5 feet.
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Next is carving resulting in my carved numerals.
Sanded away the pencil and added a layer of Clou following again by sanding.
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On the PS side the carving is different as mentioned. The height of the carvings is here 1/4 of an Amsterdam foot.
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The keel is finished
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Awesome looking keel assembly with immaculate carvings, chapeau!
 
After a broef step aside to the Royal Caroline I am back on the fluyt to start with the planking.
Shell first means shell first, so we start with the planking (shell) and fill it afterwards with frames.
To secure the keel and avoid disformation I fixed it to the blocks by 2 screws.
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For the planks I made 2,3 mm thick boards to prepare the planks.
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The first plank is the garboard strake along the keel and locked into rabbet.
To get the correct angle with the keel dummy blocks were used to fit the garboard strake along the keel, see below on the contemporary drawing from Witsens book.
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I made these blocks and fitted them in the positions of my waterline drawings, using the drawings to determine the shape.
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Dry fitting on the keel
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The garboard strake has a tapered side to fit properly into the rabbet.
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Below you see the same full scale on the 7 provincien replica build.
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And on the model
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For shaping the planks I use a water bath and temperature controlled heat plate.
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The first plank is shaped and ready to fit.
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After glueing and drying, glued with white pva.
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After the first stern plank the first bow plank follows, you can see the connection of the plank at the stem is different then in Stephan's build.
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Finally the centre plank is added. I make it slightly bigger and file it to fit.
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The plank joints are all scarph joints.
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After roughly cutting the scarph joint also this I file to fit.
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When it fully fits I glue it in place with dark brown pva on the scarph joints being the caulking.
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Next time the SB side.
 
Nice start. A very difficult part on this build. Smart to use these blocks.
The garboard strake on the stem goes high at your build. Are you sure about this? In my first attempt I did that too. But the result was that the shape of the stem was to sharp. More like a English ship and not the Dutch wale look. In the program of Ab you also see the garboard strake not so high above the keel.
The planks on the bow must stay flat and horizontal in the beginning to get that round wale shape bow. In my first attempt I tried a lot of corrections to get the shape. In my second attempt with the garboard strake ending low with a rounding, the shape almost comes on his own. I try to show in the morning some pictures what I try to explain.
 
After a broef step aside to the Royal Caroline I am back on the fluyt to start with the planking.
Shell first means shell first, so we start with the planking (shell) and fill it afterwards with frames.
To secure the keel and avoid disformation I fixed it to the blocks by 2 screws.
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For the planks I made 2,3 mm thick boards to prepare the planks.
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The first plank is the garboard strake along the keel and locked into rabbet.
To get the correct angle with the keel dummy blocks were used to fit the garboard strake along the keel, see below on the contemporary drawing from Witsens book.
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I made these blocks and fitted them in the positions of my waterline drawings, using the drawings to determine the shape.
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Dry fitting on the keel
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The garboard strake has a tapered side to fit properly into the rabbet.
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Below you see the same full scale on the 7 provincien replica build.
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And on the model
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For shaping the planks I use a water bath and temperature controlled heat plate.
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The first plank is shaped and ready to fit.
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After glueing and drying, glued with white pva.
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After the first stern plank the first bow plank follows, you can see the connection of the plank at the stem is different then in Stephan's build.
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Finally the centre plank is added. I make it slightly bigger and file it to fit.
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The plank joints are all scarph joints.
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After roughly cutting the scarph joint also this I file to fit.
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When it fully fits I glue it in place with dark brown pva on the scarph joints being the caulking.
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Next time the SB side.
A nice and surprising start. A plank at the back, one at the front, and then the appropriate part in between. Very promising, Maarten.
Regards, Peter
 
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