Yeah, i will work on that a bit ...
Brigantine Phoenix, by Master Korabel [COMPLETED BUILD]
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Yeah, i will work on that a bit ...
The rudder has been replaced.. the challenge was that there is no rudder schema available so i had to do a bit of research to come up with one that is close to the original as possible.
I have used some left over wood and transfer rudder on it..
Rudder was cut and shaped and installed on the boat. I am not fully satisfied with its look but will leave it as is for now. Rudder was not glued, just slide in..
During process of mounting a new rudder, gudgeon snapped and replaced..
10 rows were also completed...
Since i am still waiting for a ropes to arrive, i put all completed parts aside.
And the fun part started..
First i marked all parts based on kit diagram.
I have used a HB pencil in case some of those marks needs to be erased later.
Started with bulkhead, by removing them from the frame. The frame is strong so few different knifes are required to remove parts.
Dry fit without any sanding shows that parts are very precise cut and easy to assemble...
Sanding was applied to keel and all bulkheads just enough to remove excess laser cut burns..
All bulkheads were removed, sanded and dry fit...
And the first bulkhead glued..
More to come..
Happy modeling.
I have used some left over wood and transfer rudder on it..
Rudder was cut and shaped and installed on the boat. I am not fully satisfied with its look but will leave it as is for now. Rudder was not glued, just slide in..
During process of mounting a new rudder, gudgeon snapped and replaced..
10 rows were also completed...
Since i am still waiting for a ropes to arrive, i put all completed parts aside.
And the fun part started..
First i marked all parts based on kit diagram.
I have used a HB pencil in case some of those marks needs to be erased later.
Started with bulkhead, by removing them from the frame. The frame is strong so few different knifes are required to remove parts.
Dry fit without any sanding shows that parts are very precise cut and easy to assemble...
Sanding was applied to keel and all bulkheads just enough to remove excess laser cut burns..
All bulkheads were removed, sanded and dry fit...
And the first bulkhead glued..
More to come..
Happy modeling.
Continue with bulkhead assembly..
Not sure how this part is called but D1L is going on
, dry fit..
And gluing it all ...
And yes, my ropes finally showed up with some on back-order as well....
Happy modeling..
Not sure how this part is called but D1L is going on
, dry fit..
And gluing it all ...
And yes, my ropes finally showed up with some on back-order as well....
Happy modeling..
Nothing much to update.. keep gluing... the parts are very precise and easy to assembly... minor sanding is required..
Sometimes big guns are needed...
Happy modeling.
Sometimes big guns are needed...
Happy modeling.
Friends, your opinions will be appreciated.
This great kit contains a piece of decorative plywood simulating deck planking, ready to be assembled on the ship.
I am kind of used to that all deck planking are made of straight planks, not as curved as on this sample. I am not familiar with bending methods during days when this real ship was built that will allow plank bending in the way they have represented here..
I am leaning towards more classical deck planking method where planks are all running straight (like in my Sultana model)....
..and where joggling the deck planking when they meet the margine planks...
What is your opinion?
This great kit contains a piece of decorative plywood simulating deck planking, ready to be assembled on the ship.
I am kind of used to that all deck planking are made of straight planks, not as curved as on this sample. I am not familiar with bending methods during days when this real ship was built that will allow plank bending in the way they have represented here..
I am leaning towards more classical deck planking method where planks are all running straight (like in my Sultana model)....
..and where joggling the deck planking when they meet the margine planks...
What is your opinion?
Hello Moreplovac.
The planking board supplied with a kit is historically accurate. The kit was designed and developed based on research from the Russian Navy Archive. They use the original blueprints found. It is common for the desk planks to be curved. In fact, they can be of different width and even thickness. One of many examples would be Brig Le Cygne. Her deck planks are curved to the bow and the stern. Here are the photos from ANCE plans.
The deck from the kit is beautifully embossed planks and the treenail. Why not use it? On this scale, under the oil, it will be a great looking deck, IMHO. Maybe others have a different opinion
The planking board supplied with a kit is historically accurate. The kit was designed and developed based on research from the Russian Navy Archive. They use the original blueprints found. It is common for the desk planks to be curved. In fact, they can be of different width and even thickness. One of many examples would be Brig Le Cygne. Her deck planks are curved to the bow and the stern. Here are the photos from ANCE plans.
The deck from the kit is beautifully embossed planks and the treenail. Why not use it? On this scale, under the oil, it will be a great looking deck, IMHO. Maybe others have a different opinion
Hello Moreplovac.
The planking board supplied with a kit is historically accurate. The kit was designed and developed based on research from the Russian Navy Archive. They use the original blueprints found. It is common for the desk planks to be curved. In fact, they can be of different width and even thickness. One of many examples would be Brig Le Cygne. Her deck planks are curved to the bow and the stern. Here are the photos from ANCE plans.
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The deck from the kit is beautifully embossed planks a treenail. Why not use it? In this scale, under the oil, it will be a great looking deck, IMHO. Maybe others have a different opinion
No problem at all to use kit provided deck; i was just a bit puzzled with plank curving that was applied on the deck..
Thanks for clarifying..
Not sure about you, but i have a tendency to break tiny parts very easily, during work on other ship parts.
This happened to me while working on my Sultana. Not sure how many years of bad luck breaking some ship parts will bring you (like breaking a mirror) but not being in the mood to challenge it, i decided to protect a bow from being damaged.. two spare wood parts and a bit of scotch tape will do the trick.
Waiting for further work..
The hull fairing was next.. hopefully i will not fairing more than needed. Some of the building logs suggesting that bulkheads should be sanded appr 1.5 mm so hull planks will not ended up short at the stern area.. I will get one or two planks and test fitting...
Then, following instruction i glued part of the deck at the stern area.. Unfortunately some of the clamps used in process were clamping stronger causing deck to ended up bended in some area.. so the correction had to be made. With a help of acetone, i was able to remove deck from the hull..
Hull and deck have been cleaned, sanded and new assembly attempt was made... this time using rubber bands instead...
Happy modelling.
This happened to me while working on my Sultana. Not sure how many years of bad luck breaking some ship parts will bring you (like breaking a mirror) but not being in the mood to challenge it, i decided to protect a bow from being damaged.. two spare wood parts and a bit of scotch tape will do the trick.
Waiting for further work..
The hull fairing was next.. hopefully i will not fairing more than needed. Some of the building logs suggesting that bulkheads should be sanded appr 1.5 mm so hull planks will not ended up short at the stern area.. I will get one or two planks and test fitting...
Then, following instruction i glued part of the deck at the stern area.. Unfortunately some of the clamps used in process were clamping stronger causing deck to ended up bended in some area.. so the correction had to be made. With a help of acetone, i was able to remove deck from the hull..
Hull and deck have been cleaned, sanded and new assembly attempt was made... this time using rubber bands instead...
Happy modelling.
Looking good - very nice work! It’s a really nice kit.
Continue with bulkheads... and stern...
Happy modelling.
Happy modelling.
This work from home thing is actually good when it comes to ship building.. My space to WFH is one desk and my shipyard is second desk with a common chair between... so it is just matter of turning around and work or work in shipyard....
Some parts needed a bit of shaping..
Glued...
All bulwarks have been installed.. they fit perfectly with little or no sanding of laser burns.
Making sure bulwarks are lined up correctly...
Happy modelling and WFH...
Some parts needed a bit of shaping..
Glued...
All bulwarks have been installed.. they fit perfectly with little or no sanding of laser burns.
Making sure bulwarks are lined up correctly...
Happy modelling and WFH...
So you make great progress now you WFH. 
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Yup, some extra time in the day is available for this task.
Continuing with deck work...
And ready for next step, just without the temporary part at the bow.
Happy modelling.
And ready for next step, just without the temporary part at the bow.
Happy modelling.
Had a bit of a challenge assembling the first plank; the wood is fairly tick and even after some time dipped in the water, the twisting was a bit of a challenge.
After some time and few extra helping hands was able to install it and leave it to dry. Hopefully it will not be causing issues in the future.
Happy modelling.
After some time and few extra helping hands was able to install it and leave it to dry. Hopefully it will not be causing issues in the future.
Happy modelling.
First layer of planking continues preparing two top planks by soaking them into water and twisted around jar lid and a glass.
During mounting process one of the bulkheads snapped on me...
.. so now it will be time to replace it with some spare parts.. Found one small piece of poplar from my Sultana build, shaped it roughly and installed on the ship.
Planking process continues with that new bulkhead sticking out weirdly.
Good thing this is just first planking layer...
This kit has plenty of pins/nails that are very useful in planking process. I always used just simple nails or other pins but these nails has longer sharper top, so just small length of nail needs to go thru to keep a plank in place..
That is for today... there will be tons of shaping, scraping and usage of wood filler to make this hull as smooth as possible for second plank layer.
Happy modelling.
During mounting process one of the bulkheads snapped on me...
.. so now it will be time to replace it with some spare parts.. Found one small piece of poplar from my Sultana build, shaped it roughly and installed on the ship.
Planking process continues with that new bulkhead sticking out weirdly.
Good thing this is just first planking layer...
This kit has plenty of pins/nails that are very useful in planking process. I always used just simple nails or other pins but these nails has longer sharper top, so just small length of nail needs to go thru to keep a plank in place..
That is for today... there will be tons of shaping, scraping and usage of wood filler to make this hull as smooth as possible for second plank layer.
Happy modelling.
A little bit of a planking work has been done
Then a little bit of a planking challenges experienced when i accidentally broke few planks.
Very happy this is just a first plank layer
and some patching was called in to help.
Today i should be done with planking; rough shaping, filling up with putty and sanding will be next.
Could not wait so did a little bit of those activities just to see how it will goes..
Happy modelling.
Then a little bit of a planking challenges experienced when i accidentally broke few planks.
Very happy this is just a first plank layer
and some patching was called in to help.
Today i should be done with planking; rough shaping, filling up with putty and sanding will be next.
Could not wait so did a little bit of those activities just to see how it will goes..
Happy modelling.
Planking process continues.. this time plank was cut in half on purpose since some shaping, sanding, test fitting, sanding, etc will be needed on both ends.
It does not follow the proper planking techniques but since it is a first layer i think i can get away with it..
First plank layer has been completed; now the fun part begins...
A bit of a scraping..
Then lots of sanding with different grit number..
Now i need to fill up those holes and spaces with wood filler to make it as smooth as possible for second planking layer..
Happy modelling.
It does not follow the proper planking techniques but since it is a first layer i think i can get away with it..
First plank layer has been completed; now the fun part begins...
A bit of a scraping..
Then lots of sanding with different grit number..
Now i need to fill up those holes and spaces with wood filler to make it as smooth as possible for second planking layer..
Happy modelling.
Work on the hull continues; i have cut cannon openings, installed, not sure what term to use, a piece of darker wood on the top of gun openings... it is needed just for 6 cannons
Next i have installed planks that fits between the bulkheads.. They are precut and very small amount of sanding is needed.
But we do need to add a small piece of wood to make sure that bottom part of that "plank" fits with bottom end of the bulkhead..
Then i started to make a room for a window; kit comes with plexiglass windows, precut very precisely that the only thing to do is to push them into opening. A bit of force is required but this will make sure they will not get lost in the process. The window opening was painted in black, window pushed in and protected by a piece of scotch tape. There is also a plastic folia on the window so there is no need to add a scotch tape... but... just to remember to remove it before continue with window work..
Sanding is next step...
and this is all for today...
Happy modelling.
Next i have installed planks that fits between the bulkheads.. They are precut and very small amount of sanding is needed.
But we do need to add a small piece of wood to make sure that bottom part of that "plank" fits with bottom end of the bulkhead..
Then i started to make a room for a window; kit comes with plexiglass windows, precut very precisely that the only thing to do is to push them into opening. A bit of force is required but this will make sure they will not get lost in the process. The window opening was painted in black, window pushed in and protected by a piece of scotch tape. There is also a plastic folia on the window so there is no need to add a scotch tape... but... just to remember to remove it before continue with window work..
Sanding is next step...
and this is all for today...
Happy modelling.
The place where rudder will be mounted, has to be painted in black...
Then i start adding frames to the cannon openings; using miter cut tool..
.. i cut 6 frames/mouldings that will be going on first. I happened to have this tool but forgot about it hiding it during my last workshop cleanup; any cutting tool will do the job, no problem.
Installed..
All 6 were put in place.. A little bit of moulding shaping is required to make it fit nicely. After gluing it, i sanded it with the hull..
Happy modelling.
Then i start adding frames to the cannon openings; using miter cut tool..
.. i cut 6 frames/mouldings that will be going on first. I happened to have this tool but forgot about it hiding it during my last workshop cleanup; any cutting tool will do the job, no problem.
Installed..
All 6 were put in place.. A little bit of moulding shaping is required to make it fit nicely. After gluing it, i sanded it with the hull..
Happy modelling.