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Corsair H.M.S. Enterprize Build Log

TRS7139 said:
Gentlemen: I offer this as a cautionary note.
Image is only beginning to dry fit items relative to pumps and ultimately their relationship to vertical stantions for and aft.
Images with Victors prototype and directions show vertical posts in 2-3 different locations....inside well, outside well, etc.
Yet another big reason to pour through directions to get a sense of parts interplay BEFORE you glue something delicate and have to break it out.
The pump wheels have their handles passing through, extending to the verticals where they are secured and passing past, all important because several pieces have to be aligned for pump handles to be straight. Once you start fiddling with stuff it becomes obvious but, again, directions can easily lead to to mistakes.
Small notches on pump tops is where handles locate, mine are a bit too far apart but you can plainly see, forward posts locate on lower/upper beams inside the well.
Lastly, be advised, the 4 stantions with sheaves need their mortices adjusted as well as height to fit properly on lower beam and fit snugly under gun deck. Lot's of tapering/ shaping involved here as well as dabbing tops that locate beneath deck beams. Want to get this all proper since they are a substantial feature.
Far easier to get this resolved well before gun deck construction IMHO.
Hopefully this will avoid undue issues.

Tim

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Thanks for the heads up !
Your build is really looking great !
 
Corsair said:
sorry to hear it But, like I said, it is very far from accurate.
I would be interested in what they say they would charge you to ship it to you. :)
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around 35 dollars BUT Think ive found some at Caldercraft where i but everything but blocks
The deck carlins use up large amounts
 
Heads up gentlemen.
Assuming some of you posses a decent saw( I use a Byrnes), i have ripped quite a lot of 3x3 & 4x4 strips from the edges of parts sheets that have no parts any longer. If you’re creative there is a lot of usable, matching wood on many of them.
 
TRS7139 said:
Heads up gentlemen.
Assuming some of you posses a decent saw( I use a Byrnes), i have ripped quite a lot of 3x3 & 4x4 strips from the edges of parts sheets that have no parts any longer. If you’re creative there is a lot of usable, matching wood on many of them.
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Just looked at Byrnes WEb Site
Apparently Jim passed away earlier this year (RIP)
Cant imagine what carriage would b
e
 
richardjjs said:
Just looked at Byrnes WEb Site
Apparently Jim passed away earlier this year (RIP)
Cant imagine what carriage would b
e
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I believe you can still get a saw from them. You have to call them and Jim's wife will answer. However, they are here in the US and I would imagine the shipping to the UK would rival the cost of the saw itself. :) You should probably look for a similar saw that you can source from somewhere closer to home. Don't ask me which saw. I don't have a table saw.
 
Corsair said:
I believe you can still get a saw from them. You have to call them and Jim's wife will answer. However, they are here in the US and I would imagine the shipping to the UK would rival the cost of the saw itself. :) You should probably look for a similar saw that you can source from somewhere closer to home. Don't ask me which saw. I don't have a table saw.
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That’s the theory.
Tried to contact her a couple times this year for a switch for my disc sander……crickets.
That said, my understanding, while not the level of the Byrnes, I believe many use the Proxxon with decent result, has global shipping.

Tim
 
Corsair said:
does not go all the way to the stem or stern, but comes to a point and ends on the Keelson. How did you guys determine where it starts?
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This is a great question. I am not sure, but I think the lowest plank on planking expansion drawings show the inner most of the limber strakes. (not the limber boards) There is no expansion drawing of Enterprise but the following might give you a clue. David Antscherl goes into a lot of detail on the inner planking but does not specifically call out exactly where the limber strake or ceiling strakes end. There is way too much to copy here without infringing on his copyrights. The Full Framed Model Volume I, pages 184-188 go into the detail. He does show that the ends of the strake are tapered in breadth and might use a filler as well. He also mentions the thickness is reduced near the ends. This reduction in thickness is mentioned in the contract for the Enterprise class with the first strake 5 inches thick, and the second 4 inches thick and reducing to 3" thick near the ends.



Squirrel (24) 1785 inboard planking expansion
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Sphinx (20) 1775

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From The Fully Framed Model volume I
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AllanKP69 said:
Hi Jeff,
Note that the ends of the strakes butt against the keelson, not on top of it. This will likely all be out of sight in the end so maybe not such a big deal. It is not the easiest area to plank, that's for sure.
Allan
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Yes, the model has it butting up on the side of the keelson. :) I've been thinking of making a scraper in a jig to make the rebate for the limbers.
 
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