All printed up and I'm ordering wood shortly. Thanks
YEA MY WOOD ORDER COMES ON MONDA FROM WOOD CRAFT 1/3 INCH BALTIC BIRCH, FRAME PATTERNS I CAN PRINT BUT HAVE TO GO TO PRINTERS FOR 11 X 17 LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS ONE GOD BLESS STAY SAFE ALL DON
Don: I think you should start a build log thread rather than post here! Maybe Admnin. can move this post for you after you start a log.
Don't be too generous with the "meat " on your bulkheads. You're going to make extra work for yourself. The contours of the hull are going to require lots of fairing and stock removal, even if you're kind of close to the line. I leave a hint of white between my cut and the bulkhead outline and take care of the rest with the faring process. Anyone else have thoughts?
BTW: That's a nice little spindle sander you have there! I hate using my full sized one for model work so I just ordered one from Amazon!
Don't be too generous with the "meat " on your bulkheads. You're going to make extra work for yourself. The contours of the hull are going to require lots of fairing and stock removal, even if you're kind of close to the line. I leave a hint of white between my cut and the bulkhead outline and take care of the rest with the faring process. Anyone else have thoughts?
BTW: That's a nice little spindle sander you have there! I hate using my full sized one for model work so I just ordered one from Amazon!
While I'm waiting for wood, I drew in some gun and oar ports and deck that follows the shear for the fun of it. There I go again making more work for myself.
That is a nice and well done set of plans and details. Rich (Pt-2)
I added the waterline (what I believe it is anyways) to the drawings. Here is the latest update with the waterline.
Hi Ken!
Both Mike41 and MikeJ have modified their bulkheads to allow for gun ports and a deck. I'm wondering if you might consider modifying the original bulkhead drawings to allow for this modification as an option from the start?
can you pass on some pictures or sketches, which would be very helpful
I'll try to find some stuff, but check out MikeJ and Mike41's build logs in this section! Can you guys chime in?!
HI KEN IN BOTH BUILDS MIKE412 AND MIKEJ THEY SHOW ADDED GUNPORTS ETC, FOR ME IT IS STILL A LEARNIG FOR PLANKING SO I WILL KISS IT(KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID) MINE IS COMING ALONG SLOWLY BUT THIS ONE SO FAR IS A FUN BUILD HAPPY WITH IT, WILL TRY TO SPILE MY FIRST PLANK THE ONE NEXT TO THE BROAD STRAKE. GOD BLESS STAY SAFE ALL DON
I took the drawing you gave of boat #6 and it showed the deck line and extrapolated where the deck line would be on the model you designed. I then cut the frames with that much less material. I had to move the cross piece and the blocking down to accommodate for the lowered frames. I didn't put in any camber so it is just a flat deck. In fact, I cheated and cut out a deck from some old premade decking I had in my pile. As for the gun and sweep ports, again, I extrapolated from the #6 drawing and guesstimated their location in relationship to the picture and the model. I cut down the tops of the bulkheads so that I could close the top of the gun ports with some 1/8th thick wood and close them all at the same time. The cap rail was then glued to that piece. Nice and flat. I trimmed the bulkhead frames down to 3/16ths then planked with 1/32nd on the inside and outside then the cap rail was 5/16ths wide to cover it all. I only put that stuff in to add some of me to the project since it is going to my grandson on his first birthday in August. unless I make another one that is better, which is a possibility. I'm really enjoying this project. Just the whiskey plank to go and all the final shaping. Loving it. Also, Next time I will probably not do the build board, because it will give me more access to the inside of the bulkheads if I want to do some more detail. Let me know if you have any questions.
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Hi Ken, the additions Mike J. made to his model with the procedure he used resulted a more interesting ship model.
If you would show the location of the deck and gunports as Mike has his shown it will be helpful. I would recommend if you were going to use a build board attach it to the model with screws (backside) so it can be removed to facilitate planking.
MikeJ didn’t factor in deck camber. If the bulkhead extensions are drawn into the original bulkhead drawings, the camber should be easily included also. If you can make those modifications, Ken, it would offer an attractive option for builders. I would start a log for sure!
Thanks Ken for all you efforts in designing this. I'm going to do this again now that I've made all my mistakes. Haha. Anyway, what a great project and a nice canvas to do some interesting things. I just found some plans for the Speedy and it could be a great half hull in the future. Thanks again, aloha, MikeJ
I TOO WANT TO THANK KEN FOR A MOST INTERESTING PROJECT, JUST TO BAD MORE ARE NOT INTEESTED IN THIS TYPE OF BUILD YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT FUN YOU ARE MISSING, FOR BOTH MIKES AND KEN TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER ONE OF THESE LOOKING FOR PLANS HERE IS AN IDEA THE MATTHEW OF JOHN CABOT PLANS ARE AVAILABLE AT NO COST ON MSB, DOC SHOWED AN INTEREST IN THIS ONE TOO, COME ON DOC YOU GOT ROOM FOR ANOTHER ONE. GOD BLESS STAY SAFE ALL DON
Hallo Ken alias @kohlndkI was perusing the internet looking for a set of decent lines for the bomb vessel cross section, which I want to lengthen so that I can also show it with a mast and some rigging. I came across half hull models and was intrigued. Basically these are exactly what the name says; it’s a model of a boat or ship hull, split down the middle and mounted to a plaque. These were used to as a visualization tool for the boat/ship builders to see how the hull looked and also to take the lines from. These were made with no rigging, fixtures or deck hardware. Today there only used as decoration as the computers can make the necessary patterns and make sure the lines are ‘fair’.
Here is an example of such a model:
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I was thinking that this would make a nice project. The framework is relatively simple, but yet when you plank it you can make it as elaborate as you want. By adding the correct width of planking, and cheater planks, hook scarf joints and fasteners this would make a nice looking model. The other advantage one would have with this is more practice in planking. And I know I can use all the practice I can get.
As I mentioned I was perusing the internet, I did find a nice set of lines to use on this model. This is a model of an English Cutter from the mid 1700’s or so. Apparently these were very popular as I believe about 30 or so of these ships were ordered at that time.
Here is a set of lines for this ship, look at the lines for the ship No. 6;
I attaches some additional information about this ship below, she was about 54 foot long.
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Once I had these lines I was able to trace them in CAD software and got a basic hull form, as seen below;
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After the tracing was complete, and the curves were cleaned up I was able to then draft the model below.
I’ll be the first to say that CAD does not make things happen magically, that step of cleaning up the tracings into something useable is what took the longest to do.
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This was modeled up full scale, so that I could easily scale it down to whatever size I felt was an appropriate scale to build. My intent is to produce a set of drawings at 1/32 scale, which would make a model about 22 inches long.
As of now my intent is to have all the drawings in pdf format and printable on 11x17 paper.
I would like everyone to know that I will offer the drawings to the group, for free of course, so that anyone that is interested can come along for the ride and build one for themselves. I would like to build a quick foam mockup before I release the drawings as a sanity check to make sure there are no glaring mistakes, so we are all not starting from scratch in the event I made a big mistake.
I will share my build as I go along as well as any hiccups along the way and with the hopes that all who are building or even following can give much needed insight and critiques along the way.
I have estimated that this project would cost about $30 US, as the materials can all be bought at such places as Hobby Lobby, Joann Fabrics and Michaels Crafts and your local hobby store. This is my thoughts on what materials would be required;
3@ ¼ inch plywood or MDF panels 12 x 24 for the ribs
3@ 3/16 inch basswood 3 x 24 sheets for the keel, frame and supports
2 or 3 sheets of 1/16 in basswood 3 x 36 sheets for the planking. The planks will be about ¼ inch wide, but some will have a nice curve and need more material.
Your favorite glue and finishing products; wax, Tung oil, varnish, etc.
My next step is to finish the drawings up and build the foam mockup in the next few days. I’ll post pictures and anything that I learn along the way.
With all that being said, come and join this project with me and let’s get to planking..
Ken
we wish you all the BEST and a HAPPY BIRTHDAY
I’d like to see this project Revived! NRG has a kit out for the half hull, but there is no deck, deck furniture etc. Ken’s plans, modified as MikeJ and Mike41 have done, would be a very attractive option for the half hull model.
How can we make this happen?
How can we make this happen?
Not necessarily, Zoly. But plans to include a cambered half deck, inboard bulwark planking and half deck furniture would be a great option for the scratch builder. If someone wanted to do a kit based on Ken's plans (with his approval) ...not a terrible idea!