You guys know how to use proportional dividers don't you?
HIGH HOPES, WILD MEN AND THE DEVIL’S JAW - Willem Barentsz Kolderstok 1:50
Good morning Heinrich. What a cool pic! Good thinking re the boat. Tying off lines to those tiny belay pins with two tweezers is an interesting process and you need all the space you can get. Especially with all the standing rigging on. Fingers and thumbs my friend but loads of fun
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Not really Phil - copy and paste was the easiest!
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Thank you, my friend. Space is at a premium, so I am fortunate that the rigging is relatively uncomplicated compared to the behemoths that you guys are building!Good morning Heinrich. What a cool pic! Good thinking re the boat. Tying off lines to those tiny belay pins with two tweezers is an interesting process and you need all the space you can get. Especially with all the standing rigging on. Fingers and thumbs my friend but loads of fun
Have you checked Wikipedia my friend?
I found more then 30 different "foot " measurements, and also in France there where more feet then you have on your legs.
But www.Wikipedia.org has a lot to say about it
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Thank you my, friend. It refers to the French feet or Paris foot - that I do know - what I don't know is whether Chapman used this measurement. It is not a vitally important thing. I was just curious more than anything else.
The Dutch site of Wikipedia is more specific than the English site.
On the Dutch Wikipedia:
De voet in Frankrijk
Tot de invoering van het metrieke stelsel in 1799 gebruikte Frankrijk officieel de koningsvoet (pied de roi), met een lengte die 1/6 was van de toise, een staaf die in Parijs bewaard werd, in Grand Châtelet. In sommige delen van het land gebruikte men een eigen standaardvoet die afweek van de koningsvoet. De lengte van de koningsvoet was 324,8 mm (maar voor 1667, toen de staaf vervangen werd, iets langer: 326,6 mm). Van 1812 tot 1837 werd in de detailhandel als overgang naar de definitieve invoering van het metrieke stelsel een nieuwe voet van 333,3 mm toegestaan, de pied metrique van het "mesures uselles" systeem. Daarna werd gebruik van de voet als lengtemaat verboden.
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The foot in France
Until the introduction of the metric system in 1799, France officially used the king's foot (pied de roi), with a length that was 1/6 of the toise, a bar kept in Paris, in Grand Châtelet. Some parts of the country used their own standard foot that differed from the king's foot. The length of the king's foot was 324.8 mm (but slightly longer before 1667, when the rod was replaced: 326.6 mm). From 1812 to 1837, as a transition to the final adoption of the metric system, a new foot of 333.3 mm, the pied metrique of the "mesures uselles" system, was allowed in the retail trade. Thereafter, use of the foot as a measure of length was banned.
Hans
On the Dutch Wikipedia:
De voet in Frankrijk
Tot de invoering van het metrieke stelsel in 1799 gebruikte Frankrijk officieel de koningsvoet (pied de roi), met een lengte die 1/6 was van de toise, een staaf die in Parijs bewaard werd, in Grand Châtelet. In sommige delen van het land gebruikte men een eigen standaardvoet die afweek van de koningsvoet. De lengte van de koningsvoet was 324,8 mm (maar voor 1667, toen de staaf vervangen werd, iets langer: 326,6 mm). Van 1812 tot 1837 werd in de detailhandel als overgang naar de definitieve invoering van het metrieke stelsel een nieuwe voet van 333,3 mm toegestaan, de pied metrique van het "mesures uselles" systeem. Daarna werd gebruik van de voet als lengtemaat verboden.
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The foot in France
Until the introduction of the metric system in 1799, France officially used the king's foot (pied de roi), with a length that was 1/6 of the toise, a bar kept in Paris, in Grand Châtelet. Some parts of the country used their own standard foot that differed from the king's foot. The length of the king's foot was 324.8 mm (but slightly longer before 1667, when the rod was replaced: 326.6 mm). From 1812 to 1837, as a transition to the final adoption of the metric system, a new foot of 333.3 mm, the pied metrique of the "mesures uselles" system, was allowed in the retail trade. Thereafter, use of the foot as a measure of length was banned.
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Wow! That is very interesting, Hans and seeing that I cannot access Wikipedia, most informative. If the transition was made from 1812 to 1837, then it helps me a ton! The one plan that I have was drawn and signed off in 1861. Taking into account that Chapman was born in 1721 and died in 1808, it is logical that he would have made these drawings after 1837 - thus they would both have used "metrique feet."
Thank you, Hans, that helped me a lot. Want to help me build a foreign ship?
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Hello Henrich,
Hello Heinrich, Your Willem Barentsz Kolderstok is sure a ship of beauty, you are doing a great job of building her with all of your great skills.
We are saddened with the news that your Admiral Xiuli has come down with this virus coved thing and Bernadette and I wish her a speedy recovery. It seams that you are now her Care Giver and I bet you are very good at it. I had and still have my fare share of Care Giving after Bernadette's bad fall 1 1/2 years ago up at the Byers Lodge. I still have to do a bit but she is slowly improving leaving me some time to work in my Old Ship Yard. Some how I found care giving very tiring, leaving very little left of my get up and go.
Regards Lawrence
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@Canoe21 Dear Lawrence. It is so good to hear from you again. Thank you so much for the kind words about the build, my friend. I know that Bernadette was the No 1 priority after her fall and that you had virtually no time to spend in the shipyard. It is so good to see that you have resumed work on your Bluenose and you, and the little fellows are indeed doing a fine job.
Unfortunately, there is not much that I can do for the admiral as she stays in her own apartment during the week. With her now having had contracted Covid, I won't even be able to celebrate New Year with her (or for that matter with anyone else). The best I can do is just to lend a sympathetic ear when we talk and to encourage as much as I can.
Unfortunately, there is not much that I can do for the admiral as she stays in her own apartment during the week. With her now having had contracted Covid, I won't even be able to celebrate New Year with her (or for that matter with anyone else). The best I can do is just to lend a sympathetic ear when we talk and to encourage as much as I can.
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Beautiful little ship, but one I will be staying away from, no offense intended @Kolderstok, I highly value your models, especially since they reflect the Dutch shipbuilding of the seventeenth century. I've seen a couple of Kolderstok's models in Duizel and they are even more impressive in real life.
If one is a) an expert level builder, b) interested in Dutch ships from this era and c) willing to pick up the gauntlet, this is an obligatory build. I wish @janzwart many pleasurable building hours with the fluyt; I will be following this build with keen interest.
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Johan, I think you have summed up brilliantly! @Kolderstok Hans rates his ships' difficulty level on a scale of 4 and the fluyt is rated as a 4, so Jan will certainly have a challenge awaiting him.
And a very Happy New Year to you and your Anna, Heinrich.
I hope she is on the mend, stay safe.
I hope she is on the mend, stay safe.
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Likewise!
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Thanks Henrich, Bernadette and I send along our best wisher to Xiuli and your self and Family for a Very Happy New Year.
Regards Bernadette and Lawrence
All the best for you and Anna and hoping for a prosperous new year.
All the best for you and Anna as well Heinrich, altough you will have to wait for another week or 3 for the Chinese New Year to come i think.
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Hi Enrico, as requested by you, see mailThank you my, friend. It refers to the French feet or Paris foot - that I do know - what I don't know is whether Chapman used this measurement. It is not a vitally important thing. I was just curious more than anything else.