HIGH HOPES, WILD MEN AND THE DEVIL’S JAW - Willem Barentsz Kolderstok 1:50

Well your making progress and that is what counts in the new shop.

I like the mirror shots of the ship, you see both front and back sides in one photo, that or you building two identical ships at once. o_O
Thank you very much Kurt. The mirror created an unplanned effect - it can look striking, but the drawback is that now I can't afford a "weak" side of the ship anymore. I t has to be perfect all over and symmetry gains a new dimension! :)
 
Straight vertical walls when built, but what did years at sea do to the canopy after being wet and in the winds for lengths of time.

I work on aircraft and on older ones, built in 60's, they have problems aligning new manufactured parts up sometimes because of movement from original designed angles.
I can only imagine that the wear was considerable as on all wooden seagoing vessels. The life expectancy of these ships were deemed to be approximately 15 years - if they were lucky of course. In the case of the Willem Barentsz, the crew broke down the front canopy once they got stranded and used the timber to construct Het Behouden Huys (The Safe House) in which they overwintered on Nova Zembla.

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Note how the deck structures (including the front canopy) had been removed from the ship.
 
Aircraft, designed and build in the sixties, were made using hand made drawings. These drawings were far from accurate. I also know of shopfloor staff having their own "build instructions"; those were not exactly matching the formal ones. Now try and deliver fitting spare parts based on the original blueprints; ain't gonna happen and that's not accounting for 60 years of abuse by at least four generations of flyboys. So, no, I'm not surprised maintenance staff has difficulty fitting new parts in old airframes...
Now try doing a new build of a 426-year-old ship! :D
 
Hello Heinrich,
A small observation from a guy who spends every day evaluating how parts (in my case, teeth) relate to one another... When I look at the outside walls of the canopy it would seem they should follow the upward (and somewhat inward) curvature of the hull below the canopy to create a harmonious and continuous (or nearly continuous) line. Indeed, that is what I think I see on the replica ship. If you can accomplish that I believe the 'curviness' of this beautiful ship would be respected and even amplified. I believe this could easily be accomplished starting from where you are right now by adding the next layer of planks and then carefully sanding more on the top of the canopy wall (and less on the bottom). In essence you would be fairing not only longitudinally but also vertically.

Thank you for listening to my uninformed opinion. I'll go rig my Vasa now :D .
 
Hello Heinrich,
A small observation from a guy who spends every day evaluating how parts (in my case, teeth) relate to one another... When I look at the outside walls of the canopy it would seem they should follow the upward (and somewhat inward) curvature of the hull below the canopy to create a harmonious and continuous (or nearly continuous) line. Indeed, that is what I think I see on the replica ship. If you can accomplish that I believe the 'curviness' of this beautiful ship would be respected and even amplified. I believe this could easily be accomplished starting from where you are right now by adding the next layer of planks and then carefully sanding more on the top of the canopy wall (and less on the bottom). In essence you would be fairing not only longitudinally but also vertically.

Thank you for listening to my uninformed opinion. I'll go rig my Vasa now :D .
Paul - not only are you a master builder -but also a mind reader!

That is exactly what the plan is. ThumbsupOkayThumbs-UpCurve the outer layers so that they follow the curvature of the hull and then fairing and rounding the upper section to eliminate all sharp edges and create a harmonious transition from the sidewalls to the roof! You've got it young man.

Hang on with the rigging of the VASA. Can I offer you a position as technical advisor on the WB?
 
Ship is looking great Heinrich! Glad you are settled in the new place and the shipyard is up and running! ;)
Thank you very much for the kind words Dean. Yes, I'm all settled in and now I just have to find time for the building. I suppose it's a case of learning how to work smart and not hard! :)
 
Dear Friends

I am so blessed with the Willem Barentsz project that it is actually hard to believe. Very early this morning (I think it was this morning :)), I received a PM from @Frank48 Frank asking me whether I have received his e-mail. I quickly checked and lo and behold - just look at this!

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The complete diary of Gerrit de Veer - one of the members of the Willem Barentsz expedition - in PDF format. This meticulously kept diary and numerous carefully drafted drawings by De Veer played an instrumental role in the research that has gone into the WB.

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This was only one of FOUR PDF files that @Frank48 Frank sent me - the other three detail the three expeditions that Barentsz undertook. This of course written in old Dutch which will be a huge challenge, but surely not insurmountable.

In time I will post the other works and all significant detail where it pertains to my build. Just giving it a cursory glance this morning, I discovered that Barentsz's ship during his SECOND expedition was called the "Gulden Windthunde" (Gulden Windhond) - Golden Whippet and the depiction below shows the almost collision between the Gulden Windthunde and Van Linschoten's ship, the "Vice Admiraal" - Vice Admiral.

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Isn't it ironical that we definitively have the name of Willem Barentsz's ship during his second expedition, but not for the third. That is why I am still not buying the Witte Swaen idea. Why would the "Gulden Windthunde" be so specifically mentioned in the second expedition , but there is no mention in De Veer's diary of the name during the third expedition.

In any case, taking into account that the Willem Barentsz could attain 8 knots, she was far more of a whippet than a swan! :D

Thank you so much Frank! This is amazing information that you have shared with me!
 
Henrich we have not conversed before but I enjoyed your read and the upcoming ship build of yours, Great idea to build a ship with no Bling Bling on it just the wonderful rich color of wood!!
 
Henrich we have not conversed before but I enjoyed your read and the upcoming ship build of yours, Great idea to build a ship with no Bling Bling on it just the wonderful rich color of wood!!
Hello bandido (I apologize for not knowing your name). A very big and warm welcome to the Willem Barentsz build log. I am following your build on the Soleil Royale as well.

Thank you for your kind words - I am very glad that you are enjoying the log. I am not good at painting, and with the wonderful quality walnut that Kolderstok supplies, it makes sense to build the WB. :) That was how it all started, now I have become totally fascinated by everything about the ship!
 
Dear Friends

I am so blessed with the Willem Barentsz project that it is actually hard to believe. Very early this morning (I think it was this morning :)), I received a PM from @Frank48 Frank asking me whether I have received his e-mail. I quickly checked and lo and behold - just look at this!

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The complete diary of Gerrit de Veer - one of the members of the Willem Barentsz expedition - in PDF format. This meticulously kept diary and numerous carefully drafted drawings by De Veer played an instrumental role in the research that has gone into the WB.

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This was only one of FOUR PDF files that @Frank48 Frank sent me - the other three detail the three expeditions that Barentsz undertook. This of course written in old Dutch which will be a huge challenge, but surely not insurmountable.

In time I will post the other works and all significant detail where it pertains to my build. Just giving it a cursory glance this morning, I discovered that Barentsz's ship during his SECOND expedition was called the "Gulden Windthunde" (Gulden Windhond) - Golden Whippet and the depiction below shows the almost collision between the Gulden Windthunde and Van Linschoten's ship, the "Vice Admiraal" - Vice Admiral.

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Isn't it ironical that we definitively have the name of Willem Barentsz's ship during his second expedition, but not for the third. That is why I am still not buying the Witte Swaen idea. Why would the "Gulden Windthunde" be so specifically mentioned in the second expedition , but there is no mention in De Veer's diary of the name during the third expedition.

In any case, taking into account that the Willem Barentsz could attain 8 knots, she was far more of a whippet than a swan! :D

Thank you so much Frank! This is amazing information that you have shared with me!
Good morning Heinrich. Brilliant discussion from everyone. Great to read and a special contribution from Frank. No model is exactly the same and no one ever gets the port and starboard side identical either - no matter the talent of the modelers. Cheers Grant
 
Good morning Heinrich. Brilliant discussion from everyone. Great to read and a special contribution from Frank. No model is exactly the same and no one ever gets the port and starboard side identical either - no matter the talent of the modelers. Cheers Grant
Grant that in itself is just as brilliant an observation. We would like to think that we have created both sides equal (and some will even argue the point), but reality is very different. Heck the full-size shipbuilders were often the worst culprits! :D

I fully agree with you on the discussion that the front canopy elicited - absolutely wonderful. Thumbsup
 
This was truly another nice gift in your mail-box Heinrich, and i love the discussion in your build, altough i have seen the results of Pietsans build of his exquisit Willem Barents, both sides in this discussion are making a good point.
We wil see the result shortly i think, when your frontcanopy is ready, and btw. you are doing a great job on it
 
:) Thank you my friend! Your kind and supportive words are always much appreciated. Yes, Piet is someone else. I trust his build completely and so far every little thing that he has drawn my attention to, has helped me tremendously. I only hope that my build log can be of help to others in the same way. Please give my regards to Marijke.
 
A few pages back you mentioned the ships that also bore the name WB.
Today my Admiral gave me a book with old aerial photos.
In it also this one from the whaler with that name at the Wilton/Feijenoord wharf between Vlaardingen and Schiedam:
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As a special feature in the text next to the photo:
This was the 2nd Willem Barendsz, the 1st regained its original function as a tanker after 9 years.
This ship (the 2nd) was also in use as a whaler for only 9 years. It then went on to sail under the South African flag for a fish processing company.

So, with a link to your roots.
Regards, Peter
 
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A few pages back you mentioned the ships that also bore the name WB.
Today my Admiral gave me a book with old aerial photos.
In it also this one from the whaler with that name at the Wilton/Feijenoord wharf between Vlaardingen and Schiedam:
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As a special feature in the text next to the photo:
This was the 2nd Willem Barendsz, the 1st regained its original function as a tanker after 9 years.
This ship (the 2nd) was also in use as a whaler for only 9 years. It then went on to sail under the South African flag for a fish processing company.

So, with a link to your roots.
Regards, Peter
Thank you very much for this Peter - and on your birthday! I knew about the whaler that was called Willem Barendsz (interesting that they spelled it with a "d" instead of a "t" ), but I did not know that it had South African connections. It just shows you - it was destiny that I build the original ship! :)
 
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