HIGH HOPES, WILD MEN AND THE DEVIL’S JAW - Willem Barentsz Kolderstok 1:50

Hello Heinrich, I'm just catching up on your WB. It looks like you have a good handle on the front canopy walls. The replica does appear to have slight curvatures conforming to the hull, I'm sure you will be able to hone yours to achieve a pleasing transition. Man, I just love the shape of that little ship (Ha! It must be ship shape) :D
 
Daniel20 said:
Hello Heinrich, I'm just catching up on your WB. It looks like you have a good handle on the front canopy walls. The replica does appear to have slight curvatures conforming to the hull, I'm sure you will be able to hone yours to achieve a pleasing transition. Man, I just love the shape of that little ship (Ha! It must be ship shape) :D
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Hi Daniel. I am now busy with the final planking around the canopy to conform to the hull shape - but boy ... it ain't easy ...:eek: There are so many things you have to consider. If one is out of sequence, it will cost you heartache later on!
 
Hello Dear friends

This is just a quick update (I have a free period) of the work that has been done during the last 3 days. As pointed out in my previous posting, it was time to start with the real outer planking of the canopy. This planking layer will also be shaped and will provide the final profile shape of the canopy.

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The first two outer planks have been shaped and glued into position. The yellow section indicates where and how these planks will be trimmed to form the final profile of the canopy. The reason for the very generous extra length of the planks is to provide ample clamping space while the glue was drying. The sections of planking that extend beyond the yellow lines are only edge-clued, so proper clamping was vital to ensure that they follow the proper contours of the hull.

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After the second plank on the starboard side had been laid, I cut notches for the two crosswise covering roof beams. This was done on the port side as well. The reason for this was simple. I could either have the two covering roof beams lie on top of the planking or have it flush with the inner planking so that the final planks will cover it completely. I believe the second option is more visually pleasing (to me), hence the cut-outs.

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The third plank has been glued into position. As you can see I clamp quite aggressively, especially at the bow. The upper frame roof beams are also in position. They will obviously be sanded flush and their edges rounded (red arrow). This is why I said that the sequence of doing things is very important. Had I first applied the outer planking, cutting the notches could not be done. This is, by the way, my own take - neither Hans, nor Piet went this route. Bear in mind that this is only on the starboard side, the port side has not yet been touched.

I have also made a start building up the front wall of the canopy, but unfortunately neglected to take pictures of that. At this stage, the whole assembly looks like the dog's breakfast to me with the extra length and uneven planks, but that is part of the process. This is one of those parts of the build, when you will only have a good idea of what it looks like when you are finished.

I hope that I will have some more progress for you by the end of the weekend. Be good and listen to the admirals.
 
Dear Friends

If I am quiet, then you must know I'm hard at work on the WB which means that the Lincoln Shipyard is in full swing.

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On the starboard side the final planking layer has been added around the front canopy. Whilst final sanding still needs to take place (the sharp corner edge at the top needs to be sanded round and the roof needs to be sanded flush with the sides), you can see that the canopy now follows the lines of the wales perfectly. Once everything was dry and secure the front and rear edges were trimmed off as per the plans. The yellow arrow indicates the start of the roof planking. Following @pietsan Piet's build, I have gone for two planks with widths of 6mm and 3mm wide respectively, while the instructions call for a single 6mm wide plank. The roof plank on the starboard side is at this stage still only the 6mm one, so you can clearly see the difference.

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And here is an overall shot of what the ship looks like now with the canopy partially shaped on the starboard side. Now will you understand why it is so important to be able to "read" the lines of a ship and have the background knowledge (historical knowledge) as to how it all goes together. Once again, I can only bow to the knowledge and expertise of Piet.

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I have also started to build up the canopy walls - this shows the rear of the canopy on the starboard side (black arrow). The port side is left untouched, because I need all the space I can get for the clamps to fit onto, while planking the Port Side. The red arrow indicates the double roof planks on the starboard side, while the yellow arrow shows the single plank as per @Kolderstok instructions.

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Likewise I have also started building up the front walls.

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The first two planks on the Port Side of the front canopy are in place and I am now waiting on the glue to dry. Another two hours to go and then the next one can go on.

Until a bit later ...
 
pingu57 said:
Nice progress my friend, after a little bit of sanding it wil look great :):)
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Thank you my friend. You are right - the final shaping and getting all surfaces 100% flush and level can only be done with sanding so there will be plenty of sawdust to come soon! :) However, I thought it is a good idea to show some work in progress and not just the finished product.
 
Robp1025 said:
Your process and research is inspiring my friend. It is so good to see how everything comes together and follows the lines of the ship so accurately :)
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Thank you very much for the kind words Rob. I am also very happy with how the starboard side looks. Now the trick is to duplicate it on the other side! :)
 
Heinrich said:
Dear Friends

If I am quiet, then you must know I'm hard at work on the WB which means that the Lincoln Shipyard is in full swing.

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On the starboard side the final planking layer has been added around the front canopy. Whilst final sanding still needs to take place (the sharp corner edge at the top needs to be sanded round and the roof needs to be sanded flush with the sides), you can see that the canopy now follows the lines of the wales perfectly. Once everything was dry and secure the front and rear edges were trimmed off as per the plans. The yellow arrow indicates the start of the roof planking. Following @pietsan Piet's build, I have gone for two planks with widths of 6mm and 3mm wide respectively, while the instructions call for a single 6mm wide plank. The roof plank on the starboard side is at this stage still only the 6mm one, so you can clearly see the difference.

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And here is an overall shot of what the ship looks like now with the canopy partially shaped on the starboard side. Now will you understand why it is so important to be able to "read" the lines of a ship and have the background knowledge (historical knowledge) as to how it all goes together. Once again, I can only bow to the knowledge and expertise of Piet.

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I have also started to build up the canopy walls - this shows the rear of the canopy on the starboard side (black arrow). The port side is left untouched, because I need all the space I can get for the clamps to fit onto, while planking the Port Side. The red arrow indicates the double roof planks on the starboard side, while the yellow arrow shows the single plank as per @Kolderstok instructions.

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Likewise I have also started building up the front walls.

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The first two planks on the Port Side of the front canopy are in place and I am now waiting on the glue to dry. Another two hours to go and then the next one can go on.

Until a bit later ...
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Good afternoon Heinrich- you “owned” that. Even without the final sanding and tiny bit of shaping it looks brilliant. Cheers Grant
 
I hate to be a naysayer but I think that Heinrich knows this forward structure has fallen into a kludge area. Not through his fault. The problem is with the kit. Way back in his post #1, 701 it started to go wrong. The "picket fence" shaped pieces, to work, should have been bent in two dimensions both lengthwise (as he did) and vertically. This would have been very difficult. This bow structure should have been built up with frame extensions and cross beams laser cut as one piece. Sketch:20220326_113147.jpg
This is the only way to get the complex curves to work.

IMHO :confused:

Fair winds.. Ed
 
GrantTyler said:
Good afternoon Heinrich- you “owned” that. Even without the final sanding and tiny bit of shaping it looks brilliant. Cheers Grant
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Thank you Grant for the compliment! That is a proper confidence booster!
 
Sailor_ed said:
I hate to be a naysayer but I think that Heinrich knows this forward structure has fallen into a kludge area. Not through his fault. The problem is with the kit. Way back in his post #1, 701 it started to go wrong. The "picket fence" shaped pieces, to work, should have been bent in two dimensions both lengthwise (as he did) and vertically. This would have been very difficult. This bow structure should have been built up with frame extensions and cross beams laser cut as one piece. Sketch:View attachment 298805
This is the only way to get the complex curves to work.

IMHO :confused:

Fair winds.. Ed
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Hi Ed - please note that the walls of the canopy do not curve inwards. It sits perfectly straight. Please see pic below.

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Kurt Konrath said:
Your front canopy wall planks are wide ones, but photo shows more narrower planks?

Are you going to add a second layer of wall planks like the photo show with narrow planks.
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That is true Kurt, there are 6 boards compared to the 3 Heinrich used. This makes it look out of scale. I agree smaller boards should be used. However that is true of the entire ship. If the boards were half the current width, then the ship would look more to scale. Not to mention the planking would have been easier! I believe the kit provided boards are too wide. At half the current width on the boards, it would look like the picture of the real ship. ;)
 
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@Dean62

Hi Kurt and Dean - seeing that both your posts mention the same thing, I hope you don't mind if I respond once.

In both instances - with regards to the canopy walls and the hull planking, I would agree with you IF the model was based on the replica, which it is NOT. 6mm wide planks equate to 30 cm in real life - exactly to scale on 16th and 17th Century Dutch ships of the era. It is thus the REPLICA which uses planks that are too narrow !!!:). 30 cm wide planks that could be used for hull planking is extremely rare nowadays and were ruled out by the builders of the replica because of costing implications.
 
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Heinrich said:
@Kurt Konrath
@Dean62

Hi Kurt and Dean - seeing that both your posts mention the same thing, I hope you don't mind if I respond once.

In both instances - with regards to the canopy walls and the hull planking, I agree with you. Now of course that brings up the old question - do we change the kit, and if so, by how much? The planking used for both the hull and the front canopy are 1.5mm x 6mm planks - exactly as per the instructions and the planks supplied by the kit are to be used for that.

Kurt, to answer your question about another canopy layer - the answer is no. Number one, the 1.5mm x 4mm planks that the kit supplies are used elsewhere, so there are not enough and secondly, another layer would extend beyond the outer edges of the railing - i.e. there is no space.
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I agree, go with the kit provided at this point. However 3mm wide planks would have been best suited for this scale IMO. She’s still beautiful regardless! ;)
 
Dean62 said:
I agree, go with the kit provided at this point. However 3mm wide planks would have been best suited for this scale IMO. She’s still beautiful regardless! ;)
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Dean have a look at my edited posting. Hans actually spoke to me as I was posting and I have edited my original posting to the one that appears now based on the info that he gave me.

Thank you for the kind words!
 
Now if you will permit me some leeway from the Willem Barentsz's build, I want to hijack my own thread

I have received such wonderful support from my friends during the last couple of months, that I want to return the favour. Some time ago my friend, @shota70 mentioned that he is selling some kits to provide for tools that he wants to buy. Those of you who have been following his build logs on the scratch-built Hannah and now the Alert, will have noticed the tremendous strides that he has made in his model building - even going as far as enlisting in a carving course.

One of the kits that he wants to sell is a special one and one that I promised to help him to sell- the Bob Hunt Lauck Street Patrick Henry. The Patrick Henry is a fictitious Armed Virginia Sloop or AVS as it is more commonly known. To the old hands on SOS (we are giving away our age here) Lauck Street models are some of the very best that money can buy. Throw in Bob Hunt's practicums and you have a whole shipbuilding course at hand. Bob no longer produces models, so there are only so many that are available and if they are gone, they are gone.

Here is the link to his advert. He has included picture of the model built by Mike Shanks but I want to include some of @DocBlake Dave's build:

For sale - Armed Virginia Sloop : Lauck Street Shipyard by Bob Hunt

Lauck Street Shipyard, owned by Bob Hunt, produced about 40 kits of an Armed Virginia Sloop plank-on-frame model. Bearing the fictional name Patrick Henry, this unique and amazing 1:32 scale model is quite rare in the community. This kit comes with quality materials and excellent packaging. the...
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As you can see from these pics, the kit builds into a superb model as Doc amply demonstrated here. Now will someone please buy this kit so that I can sleep again at night?
 
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