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HIGH HOPES, WILD MEN AND THE DEVIL’S JAW - Willem Barentsz Kolderstok 1:50

Hello Heinrich, I am a huge fan of the look of a handrail. All you have to do is build up the bulwark vertical members, then leave off the side planking, then place a top rail. :)
 
Heinrich said:
Hoi Peter. No, I am playing around with the idea of railings at the stern as my favorite picture of De Veer shows. Heinrich and making railings are not good friends - hence the guts that I have to summon up if this is the way that I choose to go.

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Other pictures by De Veer though, (including the famous Plaat 8) show solid bulwarks.

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Then of course, Hoving, @Kolderstok, and de Weerdt all show solid bulwarks, so that is probably the safest way to go.
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Heinrich, so your point is that you and rails are no friends, well, if you glue cut-off nails in your vertical parts of the railing (both sides, up and down ) your railing becomes a loyt stronger, and all you have to do is accurate working, and you haven proven that you can do that.
And what Hans @Kolderstok says, is also a good point.
If it is not satisfying, you can always replace it by bulwarks
Have confidence in your own skills my friend

I just had them on my Hermione, and i waited so long until it could no longer wait, but it was easyer as i thought it would be
 
Steef66 said:
Maybe they use the wood of the bulwarks to heat the stove. That's why you maybe see this only on this drawing. In that stage of the travel they had already problems to keep up.
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It's a good suggestion, suggestion Stephan. However, we know that they used the wood of the two canopies for Het Behouden Huys. I believe the bulwarks were largely kept intact.

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Artwork: Arnold de Lange. Here the ship is shown with the two canopies already stripped to provide wood for the construction of Het Behouden Huys.
 
Kolderstok said:
You can always try the open railings, and if it doesn’t work exchange them for closed bulwarks. It’s a good exercise :)
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My dear Hans - It seems that you want to create extra work for me! ROTF I believe this build is providing me with plenty of exercise - I will be happy to do something that is, for once, straightforward.
 
Daniel20 said:
Hello Heinrich, I am a huge fan of the look of a handrail. All you have to do is build up the bulwark vertical members, then leave off the side planking, then place a top rail. :)
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Hi Daniel. I agree completely with you - I also love the look of the railing. However, in this instance the looks must take a backseat to the reality - which of course raises an interesting question. Which of the two drawings is the correct one? It seems that the solid bulwarks were favored by all interpretations of the ship - including, most importantly, that of Ab Hoving - so that does seem to be the more feasible option.
 
Heinrich said:
Arnold de Lange. Here the ship is shown with the two canopies already stripped to provide wood for the construction of Het Behouden Huys
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he is net a real good reference for details in history, but he makes nice looking paintings
 
pingu57 said:
Heinrich, so your point is that you and rails are no friends, well, if you glue cut-off nails in your vertical parts of the railing (both sides, up and down ) your railing becomes a loyt stronger, and all you have to do is accurate working, and you haven proven that you can do that.
And what Hans @Kolderstok says, is also a good point.
If it is not satisfying, you can always replace it by bulwarks
Have confidence in your own skills my friend

I just had them on my Hermione, and i waited so long until it could no longer wait, but it was easyer as i thought it would be
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My friend, in theory, I know exactly how to make the railings. The trouble comes drilling holes into the posts that support the top railing. I will have to use the 2mm x 3mm strips for that but to hand drill a hole - absolutely straight (without a drill press or milling machine), lengthwise into a 2mm thick strip of oak following the grain of the wood, will split the post faster than can you say "potverdorie". If Ab had shown railings, I would have tried that, but as it stands now, I will be the odd one out if I choose railings.
 
Steef66 said:
he is net a real good reference for details in history, but he makes nice looking paintings
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I don't know how reliable his paintings are (I do know that his paintings of the Willem Barentsz are largely based on Gerald de Weerdt's interpretation), but I agree that they are very nice paintings. I certainly wouldn't mind one! :)
 
Heinrich said:
My friend, in theory, I know exactly how to make the railings. The trouble comes drilling holes into the posts that support the top railing. I will have to use the 2mm x 3mm strips for that but to hand drill a hole - absolutely straight (without a drill press or milling machine), lengthwise into a 2mm thick strip of oak following the grain of the wood, will split the post faster than can you say "potverdorie". If Ab had shown railings, I would have tried that, but as it stands now, I will be the odd one out if I choose railings.
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I agree with that. In oak the small drill goes his own way. Even in a stand this problem will be there
 
Dear Friends

As promised the center canopy has been finished, the rear deck has been laid and both bulwarks are in position.

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Tomorrow, I will do the final sanding - please excuse the sanding dust in all grooves - and then the CLOU can do its thing.
 
dockattner said:
LOVE this Heinrich! Beautiful craftsmanship!
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Thank you very much Paul. Seeing that this whole section of the build was from plans in my head and completely scratch built, I am pleased with how it turned out. Your kind words are much appreciated!
 
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