HM Armed Cutter Alert (1777) - Vanguard Models - 1/64

Here’s a modelling question for everyone.

I’ve just had an awful night of breathing difficulties brought on by my recent use of CA during this rigging phase of the build. It’s been as bad as the trouble I caused myself by supergluing 700 copper plates onto the hull. So today I’ll be throwing out all my CA (I believe the C stands for cyanide!) and looking around for something that’s as non-toxic as mother’s milk yet welds brass, wood and cordage together as strongly as mother’s love.

Any recommendations people?
I'm about to do copper plating on cyanocrin gel. I know about toxicity, but there are no alternatives for quick fixation. PVA is not always suitable and it leaves traces that are not painted with oil. There is only one way out - good ventilation, protection in the form of a respirator. Plus one life hack, I always glue and apply glue at face level but separately from it. So that the vapors go up but not on the face but away, plus sit downwind))) In no case should you sit over the glue, i.e. over the vapors. And everything should be fine.
 
And everything should be fine.

Good luck. Thumbsup

I did all of those things and also wore surgical gloves but there was so much exposure every day over three weeks that enough got through to mess me up. I’d been using CA without problems for decades but never in such quantity. :(

I will lock my rigging knots with watered down wood glue. Wood glue will also hold small photo-etch if the surface is roughened. If all else fails I’ll boil the dog down for glue.
 
There is evidence, as discussed in past issues of the NRG journal, that, over time CA applied to brass or natural fiber, converts chemically to acid and will cause the brass or natural fiber to deteriorate over time. Acid is the enemy of archival longevity e.g. the slow desiccation and decay of acidic paper, photographic film stock, ferrous metals, etc. over time. "Rust never sleeps!" Acid free adhesives, while slow setting and not always with the most effective adhesion, are the safer choice. Fast setting and ultraviolet activated epoxies are perhaps the safest fast tack and quick curing alternatives for metals in lieu of CA, with far less toxic vapors. Hide glues, fish glues (Seccotine) and liquid hide glue will safely adhere to fiber or wood, are very strong when dry and are easily reversable with warm water. Got that knot (or wooden part) tied or glued in the wrong place or too soon? Use reversable water-based glues. White glue can be undone with isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol.
 
CA applied to brass or natural fiber

Yeah, it's really dodgy stuff isn't it? It can choke you, blind you, tear your skin off, it sticks instantly when you need wiggle time and then won't stick at all when you are in a hurry. Now it seems that it will fall apart down the line sometime. Dunno why we bother with it. Bah!

Long live Titebond, PVA and the one I forgot - epoxy!

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And I'm feeling a lot better today and in a few days I'll be fine. Then I'll give myself a kick up the donkey for being so stupid that I poisoned myself TWICE.
 
Its "instant" grab nature of CA can be addicting. But it's worth trying alternatives and workarounds.
And you are right. It grabs too fast when you need a little more time, then won't stay stuck on the next go 'round! :confused:
 
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Its "instant" grab nature can be addicting. But it's worth trying alternatives and workarounds.
And you are right. It grabs too fast when you need a little more time, then won't stay stuck on the next go 'round! :confused:

On rigging knots I might try old fashioned gum or clear nail varnish (I’ll save the scarlet stuff for Saturday nights out).
 
Sergey, did you know that you would provoke me to improve my technique like this? I think you knew exactly what effect your post would have on me.
Sergey has that effect on us ROTF
Unfortunately half of forever is still forever. ROTF
true story….

Good morning Smithy. Never a dull moment reading your posts.
Cheers Grant
 
Good morning Smithy. Never a dull moment reading your posts.
Cheers Grant

Morning Grant.

I aim to please. I played around with Emma on a whim yesterday but I’m still feeling quite ill from the CA induced chest trouble which is keeping me awake nights. I don’t have enough functioning brain cells for tricksy rigging so HMS Alert is now ‘HMS Quietly Napping,’
 
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Morning Grant.

I aim to please. I played around with Emma on a whim yesterday but I’m still feeling quite ill from the CA induced chest trouble which is keeping me awake nights. I don’t have enough functioning brain cells for tricksy rigging so HMS Alert is now ‘HMS Quietly Napping,’
That is no good Smithy. Speedy recovery and I hope “HMS quietly napping” has smooth sailing. Cheers Grant
 
Diluted titebond on Gutermann polyester. No.

Acrylic varnish ditto. No.

Shellac ditto. No.

Dilute titebond on natural fibre. No.

Acetone based nail varnish. No. (Smell is awful)

Please only suggest alternatives if you have personally used them with success. Guesses and ‘someone said…’ aren’t helpful. Now I’m off to read some books on the subject.
 
I share your allergic reaction to CA. I have been able to use a low odor low bloom formulation without a problem: Loctite 403. Warning: it is expensive. There are some other low odor CA's on the market that cost less but I have not tried them.

Thank you!!

Loctite is one to trust. So are you. I’ve just ordered some. (I didn’t think it was expensive at all.)

You are a lifesaver!!

Well ok, not a lifesaver but a hobby saver. You put a smile on my face.
 
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