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HMS Enterprize 1774 Scale Scale 1/160 Midships Cross Section

GrantTyler said:
Good evening Gunther. Some guys buy these
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You scrap these along the wood and it almost shaves the wood. I cannot get these in SA and find the post and duties here in SA just silly so I make my own from a Stanley blade. I sometimes just use my chisel blade.
Cheers Grant
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Good morning, Grant,

I see! So that's what these scrapers look like. I'll bear that in mind next time. I hope this can be done without breakage even on such a small scale.
 
They are sweep ports but keep in mind this drawing was for HMS Hind 1785, a Coventry Class 28. I posted it as it is high resolution, but that may have been a mistake to do so. Below is low res dwg of the Enterprise class framing. It does not show any sweep ports. The contract does not call out any sweep ports, but that does not mean they were not there. I looked at other contracts and did find descriptions but they were on smaller vessels, including HMS Nautilus (16) 1784 which follows:
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It took a while to find as they called them oar ports rather than sweep ports which surprised me. Their use had declined a lot in the mid 18th century, but when the Napoleonic wars came about, sweep ports and/or ventilation ports became more common again. FWIW the famous paintings of the model of Enterprize show no sweep ports.

Allan

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AllanKP69 said:
They are sweep ports but keep in mind this drawing was for HMS Hind 1785, a Coventry Class 28. I posted it as it is high resolution, but that may have been a mistake to do so. Below is low res dwg of the Enterprise class framing. It does not show any sweep ports. The contract does not call out any sweep ports, but that does not mean they were not there. I looked at other contracts and did find descriptions but they were on smaller vessels, including HMS Nautilus (16) 1784 which follows:
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It took a while to find as they called them oar ports rather than sweep ports which surprised me. Their use had declined a lot in the mid 18th century, but when the Napoleonic wars came about, sweep ports and/or ventilation ports became more common again. FWIW the famous paintings of the model of Enterprize show no sweep ports.

Allan

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Any oars on a ship this size would surely be excessively long and prone to breaking?
 
Hey folks,

I've now finished the cutter too. Unfortunately I really have to say that it has driven me to the edge of madness. :eek: It really is sooooooo tiny!!! Unfortunately for me, the boat frame broke into 8 pieces and I had to glue it. That happened when it slipped out of my hand. Then I wanted to bang my legs together and unfortunately the dinghy was right in between and it broke ... Now I've been able to patch it up again and I hope it looks good. Take a look at the pictures.

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Hey Kurth,

Thank you very much. The difference is really amazing. The dinghy of the Athena is 1/75 scale and the dinghy of the HMS Enterprise is 1/160 ... tiny. I really have a lot of respect now for people who really build in miniature ... It's madness ... Thumbsup First Place Metal
 
GIG1810 said:
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What type of boats are these? They look like a longboat or launch, but it is hard to tell from the photos. Cutters, pinnaces, launches, barges, yawls, were the types used in the 18th century Enterprize was decommissioned in 1784 and then converted to a hulk holding kidnapped (pressed) men a few years later. She would likely have carried a 22 foot longboat, 28 foot pinnace and 23 foot yawl when launched. This may have changed circa1781 to a launch, pinnace and two cutters.
Allan
 
AllanKP69 said:
What type of boats are these? They look like a longboat or launch, but it is hard to tell from the photos. Cutters, pinnaces, launches, barges, yawls, were the types used in the 18th century Enterprize was decommissioned in 1784 and then converted to a hulk holding kidnapped (pressed) men a few years later. She would likely have carried a 22 foot longboat, 28 foot pinnace and 23 foot yawl when launched. This may have changed circa1781 to a launch, pinnace and two cutters.
Allan
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Hey Allan,

as far as I can read in the description, there are three boats involved.
-Pinasse,
-Launch,
-Cutter.
Have a look at the picture ...

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Thanks Gunther. The reason I brought this up is that they don't look like English ships' boats seen in contemporary drawings but who knows, the small yards that built them probably had many differences in construction. For example none of the three in the photo have risings for the thwarts or gunwales for the tholes.. In the end as long as they floated and did the job, I am sure there were no complaints. :)
Allan
 
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