HMS Jalouse - Caldercraft by Ted

GrantTyler said:
Hi Ted. I’m assuming these are test planks to identify the number for the planking fan? I’m personally not a fan ROTF of the planking fan although others use it wonderfully. I rather line off the hull using simple maths….Good planning tho . Cheers Grant
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Yest that was to test. The actual number of planks differs from the number drawn on the full size planks
I agree with you on the problems using a planking fan. I have trouble being perfectly accurate when marking the paper strips and then again when marking the frames. The resulting stacking of error makes the whole thing suspect.
 
Ice spent several days making the paper strips, marking with the planking fan and layout on the hull frames.
However the plans show only three planks below the bulwarks to where the lower stern piece fits. This totally messes up the layout at the stern. I'm going to fit it in as shown on the plans and adjust the layout again.
I'm having a little problem maintaining my original plan to make the fire later of planking as if it we're single layer only. For some reason I m just not very attached to this build and really would rather spend my time building something else. I think the poor instructions along with meager plans without compete details is probably causing my indifference.
First photo showing three planks below bulwarks.
Second photo shows bow detailing without planking indicated.
Third shows no indication of how hull planking fits at the deadwood and rudder.
I'm just going to wing it IMG20250222082623.jpgIMG20250222082804.jpgIMG20250222082847.jpg
 
Ok, I'm trying to not have to use them.
Do you know of I double plank the hull where the copper shredding is installed.
Ted
 
First three rows on Starboard side. Two using full size planks at the stern to work around the square edge at the bottom.IMG20250223084559.jpg17403294457011074156417337682428.jpg
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I cut up.two planks trying to figure out how to do the layout. Now about 15% through the planking I see that there are only three spare planks assuming they are not used elsewhere. At least I now have some spare materials. I bought a kit on eBay and was sent the scraps from the kit listed along with the leftover planks,etc from 3-4 other kits. I think the seller got the kit from an estate sale and really believed it was a kit. Anyway, he refunded me the purchase price and let me keep the materials. I suddenly went from not having a remnant of a plank to having a fairly good supply to fall back on. This including about a dozen lime wood planks used by my current build
The thickness of the current planks varies even more than the width. But we know that isn't a problem.17403557243608285623956040568485.jpg17403557577713943094838024988152.jpg
 
Totally agree Phil. The graininess is pretty gross, just like the sapele many kit makers have provided. It probably comes down to profits for the kit maker. Costs for a good to high quality wood may make the cost of the kit prohibitive for a lot of folks so the manufacturer is somewhat stuck with a choice of offering either a good price or a high quality kit. There are kit makers such as Vanguard and Syren that use high qual materials, but the prices reflect this.
Allan
 
AllanKP69 said:
Totally agree Phil. The graininess is pretty gross, just like the sapele many kit makers have provided. It probably comes down to profits for the kit maker. Costs for a good to high quality wood may make the cost of the kit prohibitive for a lot of folks so the manufacturer is somewhat stuck with a choice of offering either a good price or a high quality kit. There are kit makers such as Vanguard and Syren that use high qual materials, but the prices reflect this.
Allan
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Fortunately, I have a full woodshop and nearby, a great supplier of hardwoods. They carry many many species and I just have to mill it.Screenshot_20250224-193420_Fast PDF Reader.jpg
 
We are in the minority Phil. I buy balks of box, castello, pear, and holly for the majority of my builds as I am very lucky to have invested in the tools to work with these woods but most model builders do not have the space or inclination which is totally understandable. I am convinced it is cheaper to accumulate the tools needed when looking at kit prices, but one still needs room to put them.
Allan
 
AllanKP69 said:
We are in the minority Phil. I buy balks of box, castello, pear, and holly for the majority of my builds as I am very lucky to have invested in the tools to work with these woods but most model builders do not have the space or inclination which is totally understandable. I am convinced it is cheaper to accumulate the tools needed when looking at kit prices, but one still needs room to put them.
Allan
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So true. I started off with woodworking years ago. I came to wooden ship building after I retired. So I already had most tools and machines, typically buying a tool as I needed. Such as buying a lathe when I needed spindles for my grandaughter's rocking horse. It does make model ship building a bit more fun and lets me take avenues just a kit doesn't offer. But - I have yet to try scratch building a ship. Maybe its time.....DSCN0180.JPGDSCN0208.JPGimg071.jpg
 
Philski said:
So true. I started off with woodworking years ago. I came to wooden ship building after I retired. So I already had most tools and machines, typically buying a tool as I needed. Such as buying a lathe when I needed spindles for my grandaughter's rocking horse. It does make model ship building a bit more fun and lets me take avenues just a kit doesn't offer. But - I have yet to try scratch building a ship. Maybe its time.....View attachment 503247View attachment 503248View attachment 503251
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Wow Phil, I love that multi drawer work desk! Not to mention that old CRT TV.
 
AllanKP69 said:
Totally agree Phil. The graininess is pretty gross, just like the sapele many kit makers have provided. It probably comes down to profits for the kit maker. Costs for a good to high quality wood may make the cost of the kit prohibitive for a lot of folks so the manufacturer is somewhat stuck with a choice of offering either a good price or a high quality kit. There are kit makers such as Vanguard and Syren that use high qual materials, but the prices reflect this.
Allan
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The reason I purchased this kit was because I thought Caldercraft used premium materials. After the Bluenose I was sorely disappointed.
I really want to build the San Felipe next and am unsure witch kit to select. I believe the ZHL will have high quality materials but the instructions are probably practically non-existent. The OcCre is more expensive has better instructions but I don't know what to expect in materials quality and it is more expensive.
 
This is the method I'm using to taper the planks. I wasn't able to hold the. Steady enough with my fingers. The plank holder and plane I purchased didn't work out. It was impossible to set the plank in the clamp piece accurately. Much like some fishing lures. Being better at catching a fisherman than a fish.IMG20250225095222.jpgIMG20250225095230.jpgIMG20250225095434.jpg
 
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