HMS Ontario 1780 Cross Section scale 1:32

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This project is based on the Original drawing and details from the book Legend of the Lake. Zoltan suggested this area for cross section as shown in the first photo

The model will be a navel board style with stub masts and exposed framing to show internal details.

When I made some preliminary layouts of the area of the Ontario to be modeled. I had a problem understanding the original draughtsman numbering system for his station lines, I renumbered them in a conventional format for the model.

The section will have 21 double frames.

Model Dimensions
Length: 16.25”
Width: 11”
Height: 12”

Drawings: The drawings will be made available from SOS when the model is finished.

Keel Assembly:
The keel assembly is made from European beechwood, I used a scroll saw to cut out the pieces and hand files to finish the notches and joints along with the keelson. This is some progress photos.
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G'day Mike
I would like to be on the front row centre to look at this very interesting build log.
I would love to have the plans, so I could do one aswell. Thanks for your fantastic offer to share this project to our family here on SOS.
Happymodeling
Greg
 

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Thanks everyone, I hope you find this build interesting, it will be a little more involved than the Blandford but still a fun build.
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Mike!

Are you going to wait until the whole build is complete before releasing any of the plans? I, for one, would like to start working on the keel and maybe a frame or two to use in setting the notches on the keel where the frames sit!
 

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Very interesting project which I will follow with big interest.
I kindly ask you to show step by step also the drawings, so we can follow the built more in detail.
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Very Nice I like the looks of this one little better than the Blanford as it looks to have a lot more business going on I would def do one of these
 

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Hi everyone,
This build log is a prototype for a swell new group build and the plans will be sold by SOS to help with maintence cost. The drawings are not finished a lot of details still need to be added and they will be updated to reflect changes to the prototype. The original drawing did not show any internal details and John McKay’s drawings do represent ships of her class, but are not as built, the framing did not agree with what is written in the book and there are some small changes made to the prototype to enhance its appearance. If anyone would like to deviate from the plan set, feel free to do so. I am leaving almost all the planking off the decks on the port side of the model to show framing and details on the lower decks. Feel free to ask questions anytime I have all the answers and some of them will be right! My fellow members will help with the ones that are less than perfect, if we are having fun it is all good.
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Hi Uwe, I will try to show the process of developing drawings for the various parts of the model. I am not a technical writer, but I will do the best I can.
 

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Next you need to do a larger cross section of like a 74 gun maybe aft section so can put all the cabins and lockers etc in hehe
 

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Hi Mike, Will you have the BOM ready so maybe Daves can put together a lumber paackage, and will there be a jig for this one also. Don PS when do you antisapate the plans being ready
 

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John McKay’s drawings do represent ships of her class, but are not as built, the framing did not agree with what is written in the book

interesting what made you change the framing from the John McKay plans to double framing?

the reason I ask is because I drew plans for the Royal George built on the lakes by the same master shipwright John Coleman. The Royal George was designed by Coleman built in England disassembled and sent to North America where it was reassembled. The Ontario and Royal George are very close to sister ships designed and built by the same master shipwright and crew. The framing of the Royal George was the same as John McKay drew for the Ontario which was double frame then two single and double.

I do agree with the double framing William Bell who built the fleet on lake Erie used double frames and the frigates built at Kingston also used double frames during the war of 1812. However William Bell was an Irish shipwright and Kingston employed French shipwrights from Quebec. I find it a bit odd a master shipwright such as John Coleman with formal training in England and worked in Naval shipyards would suddenly and totally change style of ship construction from one ship to the next.
 
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