HI, AS you have already made stern and bow fillers, WHY not do the rest. It will help a lot for the Planking, and NO twisting Wood parts. You can do one side at a time.
It is really tough to say who is right, or who is wrong, Sasha. I believe, but obviously could be wrong, that reinforcement is not technically required based on the structure provided by Amati. The MDF false deck provided the necessary support and reinforcements. The only purpose for both: Bow and Stern pieces are for the place of stand bolts, IMHO.Olga, good afternoon. Indeed, El Kapi is right, why didn’t they fill in all the spaces? Themselves in the manual write that this gives a good result.
Hello Dima. I'm not trying to figure out who is right. I wanted to know why the filling of the spacing stopped at 5 and 9 frames? With the bow and stern, it is clear, this is for the contours. There are tricky parts. Perhaps only for this purpose it has been done. Let's hear what Olga has to say.It is really tough to say who is right, or who is wrong, Sasha. I believe, but obviously could be wrong, that reinforcement is not technically required based on the structure provided by Amati. The MDF false deck provided the necessary support and reinforcements. The only purpose for both: Bow and Stern pieces are for the place of stand bolts, IMHO.
i fully agree with Alexander and disagree with You Jimssky. Called reinforcement or just to fill out the gaps between Bulkheads to me have advantages. 1: IT will avoid that the Hull will never curve. You can even do one side 1Th and then the other. "2Nd.You will have a very smooth surface along with the hulk, so that planking will run perfectly. you can glue the planking list all away along the hull, and nearly avoid using steams. As plank will cover it later nobody will even know what you have done, but as each builder sits in his-her -own driver seat, he/she can do what they willHello Dima. I'm not trying to figure out who is right. I wanted to know why the filling of the spacing stopped at 5 and 9 frames? With the bow and stern, it is clear, this is for the contours. There are tricky parts. Perhaps only for this purpose it has been done. Let's hear what Olga has to say.
Honestly, you don't have to agree with me. My opinion is subjective and I don't force anyone to agree with it. If this model was designed as single-layer planking, I would definitely insert filler pieces. Also, I would probably reinforce if the structure is made out of Plywood. MDF is a different material and doesn't have a tendency to rely on weather conditions.i fully agree with Alexander and disagree with You Jimssky. Called reinforcement or just to fill out the gaps between Bulkheads to me have advantages. 1: IT will avoid that the Hull will never curve. You can even do one side 1Th and then the other. "2Nd.You will have a very smooth surface along with the hulk, so that planking will run perfectly. you can glue the planking list all away along the hull, and nearly avoid using steams. As plank will cover it later nobody will even know what you have done, but as each builder sits in his-her -own driver seat, he/she can do what they will
This is my 2nd model that has MDF parts. I like working with it although it is much heavier than plywood. It is easy to drive nails without a hammer and at the same time this material holds them very good. This material really does not allow the body to twisted and bend, so it does not need such reinforcement, as for a plywood!Honestly, you don't have to agree with me. My opinion is subjective and I don't force anyone to agree with it. If this model was designed as single-layer planking, I would definitely insert filler pieces. Also, I would probably reinforce if the structure is made out of Plywood. MDF is a different material and doesn't have a tendency to rely on weather conditions.
All do, I might be wrong and Olya will fill out all the in-between bulkheads at the end... It is just my personal view.
Hi I THINK THAT YOUR ARE MIXING UP REINFORCEMENT, WITH TO FILL THE LOVER PARTS OF THE hull between BULKHEADS FOR A BETTER PLANKING. More and less when IU did this System for the first time, was at the same time that your Canadian friend in the Management (Solly) did it, although we use different filling Material and that goes back some years now, so nothing new hereHonestly, you don't have to agree with me. My opinion is subjective and I don't force anyone to agree with it. If this model was designed as single-layer planking, I would definitely insert filler pieces. Also, I would probably reinforce if the structure is made out of Plywood. MDF is a different material and doesn't have a tendency to rely on weather conditions.
All do, I might be wrong and Olya will fill out all the in-between bulkheads at the end... It is just my personal view.
Here again, is the name REINFORCEMENT, but for me, it has never been done for reinforcement. The BOW andStearn is a MUST-nut to reinforce -but giving the planking a much better Look. the advantage is that you can make a mix of glues and in some nails. Solly in its dau used a special product where I went to my Local Flower Shop- making a lot of flower decorations for big parties. They used to insert the cut flowers into the Sponge and as it has an abnormal way to absorb water- a longer lifetime to the flower- someone showed me, to get some. Adding a Mixture of Water a White Carpenter Glue for an hour or two, then into the baking oven-when wife was away. after this, you really had a Brick. It took a little time to find out the % of water and Glue- NOT TO THICK and not too thin either. The last two pics is from SollyThis is my 2nd model that has MDF parts. I like working with it although it is much heavier than plywood. It is easy to drive nails without a hammer and at the same time this material holds them very good. This material really does not allow the body to twisted and bend, so it does not need such reinforcement, as for a plywood!
Here. I knew there was a secret here.Второе: у меня кончился Липа))) и поэтому не хватило даже дров, чтобы заполнить пространство до конца в тех местах, где будет установлена штанга для стойки.
El Capi, Mon Amie, I am not mixing up anything. I am trying to explain that filling blocks can be used both for reinforcements and\or for providing a better base for the planking.Hi I THINK THAT YOUR ARE MIXING UP REINFORCEMENT, WITH TO FILL THE LOVER PARTS OF THE hull between BULKHEADS FOR A BETTER PLANKING. More and less when IU did this System for the first time, was at the same time that your Canadian friend in the Management (Solly) did it, although we use different filling Material and that goes back some years now, so nothing new here
over and outEl Capi, Mon Amie, I am not mixing up anything. I am trying to explain that filling blocks can be used both for reinforcements and\or for providing a better base for the planking.
I live in New York where you cannot control humidity, and it is so bad. You can glue everything in the evening, and in the morning found it crooked, We have 80% humidity as the norm. To avoid this we use reinforcement blocks so it doesn't twist. MFD doesn't afraid of humidity and moisture. Therefore, for the most part, doesn't require those blocks for reinforcement.
In this particular kit, as explained by Olya, reinforcement blocks are not necessary, MDF provided a very rigid structure. It is also noted, that kit comes with two layers of planks. You can always use the first layer as the base for the second\finishing planks.
no further commentsHere. I knew there was a secret here.
Olga, thank you.
Sorry to interfere with your construction. I will observe from the side. Your models are very impressive.
Great idea with this material and glue - I need to try it!Here again, is the name REINFORCEMENT, but for me, it has never been done for reinforcement. The BOW andStearn is a MUST-nut to reinforce -but giving the planking a much better Look. the advantage is that you can make a mix of glues and in some nails. Solly in its dau used a special product where I went to my Local Flower Shop- making a lot of flower decorations for big parties. They used to insert the cut flowers into the Sponge and as it has an abnormal way to absorb water- a longer lifetime to the flower- someone showed me, to get some. Adding a Mixture of Water a White Carpenter Glue for an hour or two, then into the baking oven-when wife was away. after this, you really had a Brick. It took a little time to find out the % of water and Glue- NOT TO THICK and not too thin either. The last two pics is from Solly
Thank you!Here. I knew there was a secret here.
Olga, thank you.
Sorry to interfere with your construction. I will observe from the side. Your models are very impressive.