HMS Victory - by Mantua Sergal - 1:78 scale

Hello Mark!

I use a minitool, 12 Volt, for planking. That gives nice connections and you don't need wood putty. It grinds edges and curves and eats no wood like a plate grinder.
Simply sand freely according to lines or markings. It works.

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The machine is 30 years old with no problems.

www.gw-werkzeuge.de - Böhler/Kaleas

This is the same machine only with new business name.

Successful modeling.
Thomas
 
Thomas Marocke said:
Hello Mark!

I forget: you have to bend your planks. The shown planks are too straight and do not follow the hull.

With best regards
Thomas
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I'm not exactly sure what you mean. laid out 4 bands on each side of the hull. The planks follow those bands as close as possible.

Mark Frazier
 
Mark Frazier said:
Welcome to my new build log of the HMS Victory. This is a copy of my build log I started on another forum.
This journey has a special meaning for me. All my life I wanted to build a ship. Not just any ship, but a highly detailed model, but as with most things life gets in the way. I built many models as a kid and teenager, but nothing like this. I grew up, went to school, got a degree in electronics, then became an engineer, worked at many trades, became a master machinist, a tool and die maker, traveled the US, Canada, and Mexico as an engineer for a CNC machine tool manufacturer. My lifelong hobby was wood working. I retired at age 48 due to medical issues. Now, at 68, I am working on goals on my bucket list. I desire to build this ship while I still can. I don't know what time is left .... one year .... 5 ... 20, it's unsure, but I have life threatening issues along with other issues. Enough about me, now let's build a ship.
I recieved the Mantua Sergal 782 kit of the HMS Victory this morning. This was not the kit I wanted. I wanted the Billings Boats kit, but due to the difficult times now with this virus they are closed temporarily and my order could not be filled. The distributor was very helpful in getting this kit to me as a substitute. My reason for wanting the Billings was it provided the basics at a good price and I could replace the lesser quality parts with aftermarket and make the ship better detailed. I will be doing the same thing with this kit. I did have to pay an extra $72 for this kit. The Billings was $397. I have been studying McKay's book , The 100 Gun Ship, and finding sources for upgrades while waiting 2 months for the kit to arrive. I figure another $300 in aftermarket pieces will accomplish my goal, still being less than the Caldercraft kit.. and hopefully better.



Mark Frazier
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Hallo @Mark Frazier
we wish you all the BEST and a HAPPY BIRTHDAY
Birthday-Cake
 
I am building an earlier version of the Sergal Mantua Victory 1:78. I inherited the kit from a
friend. It is the 1971 version. I have all the drawings but not the instruction book.
I have obtained later versions of the instruction book (including the one you are
working from) but there are substantial differences. So, I have been winging it a bit
and studying your build as a way of trying to figure out what to do next. I will send
a post to the members later today to see if anyone has the book I need. In the meantime,
I have a question for you. I noted that you painted black around where your cannons will
go. I assume that is so that the view into the cannon windows does not show the innards
of the ship. I am wondering, however, what the reason is for painting substantially more
of the interior, as you have done. I am not so far along that I couldn't do the same but
am curious as to the purpose.

Thanks for your time.
 
Victorybuilder said:
I am building an earlier version of the Sergal Mantua Victory 1:78. I inherited the kit from a
friend. It is the 1971 version. I have all the drawings but not the instruction book.
I have obtained later versions of the instruction book (including the one you are
working from) but there are substantial differences. So, I have been winging it a bit
and studying your build as a way of trying to figure out what to do next. I will send
a post to the members later today to see if anyone has the book I need. In the meantime,
I have a question for you. I noted that you painted black around where your cannons will
go. I assume that is so that the view into the cannon windows does not show the innards
of the ship. I am wondering, however, what the reason is for painting substantially more
of the interior, as you have done. I am not so far along that I couldn't do the same but
am curious as to the purpose.

Thanks for your time.
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Well ...... it has been a long time since anything got done on this build. I had to look at my build from the beginning to refresh my self. I believe the reason for painting so much of the interior black is as you said to hide any construction details viewed through any openings such as gunboats or hatch ways. With the interior areas blacked out, I can adjust any views to areas as I build, but it is too late to black an area out once the construction is done. I hope this answers your question.
With that ....... after all this time this build is going to start again. ( it's been a couple years at least. ) This build got stalled because life got in the way. Last year, I had a seven hour heart operation that has corrected major problems. In addition I have been and still am working to overcome some additional health issues. But I believe I can get started again. It will be slow at first but I hope to finish this build in my lifetime. So, grab your popcorn and hang on.

Mark
 
Thank you for your quick response. I just ordered more black paint from Amazon.
Sorry to hear about your health issues. I had one about the same time (5 hours
to successfully remove a cancerous prostate--now cancer free). I think we may
be about the same age (73 next month) so its good to win some of the health
battles. Hope to see your continued build log (again, I need the help).

Peter
 
Glad to hear you both got Victory over you health issues and are back to work on HMS Victory.

Victory Builder, have you thought of asking on the various model ship websites to see if any builder has a copy of the older instruction books.

I know I may get rid of box, but keep all the paper work on old projects, just in case I have to rebuild, repair or restore something, like my Phantom which had severe damage to masts and yards while in storage.
 
Victorybuilder said:
I am building an earlier version of the Sergal Mantua Victory 1:78. I inherited the kit from a
friend. It is the 1971 version. I have all the drawings but not the instruction book.
I have obtained later versions of the instruction book (including the one you are
working from) but there are substantial differences. So, I have been winging it a bit
and studying your build as a way of trying to figure out what to do next. I will send
a post to the members later today to see if anyone has the book I need. In the meantime,
I have a question for you. I noted that you painted black around where your cannons will
go. I assume that is so that the view into the cannon windows does not show the innards
of the ship. I am wondering, however, what the reason is for painting substantially more
of the interior, as you have done. I am not so far along that I couldn't do the same but
am curious as to the purpose.

Thanks for your time.
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Hello I might have the original instructions I'll check later and let you known.

Paul
 
Mark Frazier said:
Well ...... it has been a long time since anything got done on this build. I had to look at my build from the beginning to refresh my self. I believe the reason for painting so much of the interior black is as you said to hide any construction details viewed through any openings such as gunboats or hatch ways. With the interior areas blacked out, I can adjust any views to areas as I build, but it is too late to black an area out once the construction is done. I hope this answers your question.
With that ....... after all this time this build is going to start again. ( it's been a couple years at least. ) This build got stalled because life got in the way. Last year, I had a seven hour heart operation that has corrected major problems. In addition I have been and still am working to overcome some additional health issues. But I believe I can get started again. It will be slow at first but I hope to finish this build in my lifetime. So, grab your popcorn and hang on.

Mark
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I hope your health continues to improve! Good luck with the build !
 
Maarten said:
Hi Mark,

This is exactly what I mean, the wales do cut the gunports and the yellow ochre and black painted lines do not follow the wales. See the victory below.
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Off course if you like the sergal setup better you leave it like it is. I build the panart version some 20 years ago and still regret I followed the panart plans.
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Hi Maarten, I've got Panart Vic kit sitting on top shelf waiting. I, too have the same thoughts regarding wales as it 'annoys' me that manufacturers cannot correct the alignment. If or when, I do build her, I'll be hoping to get the correct run of the wales.
 
Stuart Little said:
Hi Maarten, I've got Panart Vic kit sitting on top shelf waiting. I, too have the same thoughts regarding wales as it 'annoys' me that manufacturers cannot correct the alignment. If or when, I do build her, I'll be hoping to get the correct run of the wales.
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This should be easy to do while there are plenty correct drawings available of Victory.
 
Maarten said:
This should be easy to do while there are plenty correct drawings available of Victory.
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Yes, Maarten, I know it will be easy to do, I have many drawings, but, what I would like, is to make the wales from 'anchor stock', but it would be fairly time-consuming work. I guess a jig would be required.
I've had other thoughts on whether to do a Billings Vic, until I watched again the J.Aliprantis video & thought, "Hey, where are the wales?" - Billings have omitted them, just using the black stripes as representation! Decision made for me! I've seen the kit described as; 'Double planked on frame', it's 'Bulwark, & single plank on bulkhead'. This omission does not alter my opinion of Billings kits, I'm afraid.
Maybe take out a mortgage on a Caldercraft Vic;)
 
Mark Frazier said:
Welcome to my new build log of the HMS Victory. This is a copy of my build log I started on another forum.
This journey has a special meaning for me. All my life I wanted to build a ship. Not just any ship, but a highly detailed model, but as with most things life gets in the way. I built many models as a kid and teenager, but nothing like this. I grew up, went to school, got a degree in electronics, then became an engineer, worked at many trades, became a master machinist, a tool and die maker, traveled the US, Canada, and Mexico as an engineer for a CNC machine tool manufacturer. My lifelong hobby was wood working. I retired at age 48 due to medical issues. Now, at 68, I am working on goals on my bucket list. I desire to build this ship while I still can. I don't know what time is left .... one year .... 5 ... 20, it's unsure, but I have life threatening issues along with other issues. Enough about me, now let's build a ship.

I recieved the Mantua Sergal 782 kit of the HMS Victory this morning. This was not the kit I wanted. I wanted the Billings Boats kit, but due to the difficult times now with this virus they are closed temporarily and my order could not be filled. The distributor was very helpful in getting this kit to me as a substitute. My reason for wanting the Billings was it provided the basics at a good price and I could replace the lesser quality parts with aftermarket and make the ship better detailed. I will be doing the same thing with this kit. I did have to pay an extra $72 for this kit. The Billings was $397. I have been studying McKay's book , The 100 Gun Ship, and finding sources for upgrades while waiting 2 months for the kit to arrive. I figure another $300 in aftermarket pieces will accomplish my goal, still being less than the Caldercraft kit.. and hopefully better.



Mark Frazier
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Hallo @Mark Frazier
we wish you all the BEST and a HAPPY BIRTHDAY
Birthday-Cake
 
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