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HMS Victory Occre 225 - build log


I have emailed with Xavier at OcCre in the past and he has kindly responded that he is not in charge of the technical department but passed on my notes to the technical department.

Just as an FYI OcCre responded that they are aware of the difference of the deck (and gun port) sheer being different than the planking but thought a "few" mm would not be noticed. As there is as much as 7mm difference at their scale of 1:87, some might disagree but as Crypton posted, accuracy is not always the most important thing for everyone. Number one is have fun.

Allan
 
I have created the 'new' gun ports at the top row. This time they match with the height of the floor. At this moment I'm creating frames in the gun ports of 3x1 mm strips. They almost look white, but after staining they will be more yellow, just like the back.

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I have finished the frames of the gun ports. I have used the frames to make the gun ports more equal in dimensions, since I have been a bit too enthusiastic in carving some ports. I fixed it by using double strips and trimming the size carefully. I'm still doubting what will be the next phase. Either continue with the top part or start with the bottom. Let's see next week.

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Is there to be a second layer of planking that will cover the sills as on the contemporary model below or in such a way to show the sills and sides as stops?
Thanks
Allan
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This week, I have been adding some of the rubbing strakes (not a second planking / layer). Here I'm deviating from the manual and I decided to make them black to give it a more Victory kind of style. In my first attempt, I used a black staining paint, which resulted in way too much gloss. Therefore, I changed it with a black ink (last 2 pictures) and I'm happy with that result.
For the coming week, I'll try to finish the rubbing strakes before continuing with the bottom part of the hull.

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This week I made good progress on the rubbing strakes and I finished the side that stays open. The next step will be closing the hull on the other side of the ship. I'm doing my research on how to do the planking properly. There are many styles and methods, and I'll try to do it according to the dutch style (see image). I guess, I'm a bit biased ;).

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Hi Crypton. It looks very good.
The HMS Victory being an English ship the English method of planking will be more appropriate, but you probably will copper plate the lower hull so whatever method you choose only the shape of the hull itself will be important.
 
Hi Crypton. It looks very good.
The HMS Victory being an English ship the English method of planking will be more appropriate, but you probably will copper plate the lower hull so whatever method you choose only the shape of the hull itself will be important.
Thank you Herman. I do not intent to copper plate the hull. I will use mahogany strips of 2x5, which came as an extension package of the kit. Since the model is not too accurate, I could rename it to “Overwinning” to match the planking style. ;)
 
Hello Crypto,

that looks very appealing, what you have conjured up there. With the planking, I would consider using the English design after all. Otherwise you might be annoyed. I'm definitely a fan of yours and will be following you. I'm very curious to see how it goes on.

Best regards
Günter Ship-1
 
Some progress on the planking: I finished the rubbing strakes on both sides. The side with the closed hull has now 3 4mm strips. It needed some serious twisting at back, but I'm happy with the results. The planking of the hull is challenging at the front due to the sharp curvature. Like usual, I first shape the strips to make them fit, afterwards stain them, and finally glueing them in place.

On a side note: The quality of the Mahogany strips is quite poor. Many of them are very brittle or are cut in the wrong direction (fibers not in the length direction). The package I bought should be enough for both sides, so I try to select the best ones.

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Hello Crypto,

that looks really good. Also the cut-outs of the planks. As I see you went for the English version. That's a good thing. Question, do you water the planks and bend them? That would make it easier for you to bend the planks without them breaking.

Best regards
Günther Ship-1
 
Hello Crypto,

that looks really good. Also the cut-outs of the planks. As I see you went for the English version. That's a good thing. Question, do you water the planks and bend them? That would make it easier for you to bend the planks without them breaking.

Best regards
Günther Ship-1
Yes, I do water the planks in this case and I even use boiling water. Normally, when the wood is better, I only steam the wooden strips.
 
Hello Crypto,
very nice and very clean. It's fun to watch you.
I'm a fan of your design.

Cheers Günther Ship-1
 
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