Kingfisher 1770 1:48 POF
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Wow! That’s awesome Paul! And so small, yet precise.
Just a quick note to all of my friends who are 'watching' this build and taking the time to post and share likes... I feel like I have been neglectful in my responses recently, and rather than responding individually I have done a few group replies. If someone takes the time to post, I generally think it is a good practice to respond directly. I have just been swamped recently between my paying job and my hobby job leaving less time than usual for my actual hobby (working on the Kingfisher, reporting my progress, and following your progress). Please don't come to the conclusion that your posts are anything less than life-giving to this project. Indeed, in many ways, the SOS forum is so fully integrated into my build that when I think about the hobby, I think about the people who have gathered around this site. Anyway, you are loved. And now, back to working on the quarter deck breastwork...
I’m now intrigued about that “hobby job”.
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Mmm shouldn't the spokes not be completely round? ;-)
Dirk aka Pain in the A**
PS: Just answer "no" :-D
Dirk aka Pain in the A**
PS: Just answer "no" :-D
A certain guy who wrote a book about swan class ships also pointed that out - so you're in good company
... Working on it (and thus far failing).
A thin strip of that abrasive tape you drag between our teeth and a delicate touch?
You only need to take the corners off for observers with normal vision to think that they see roundness.
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Don't start a discussion about teeth around here, especially because you're British.
Avoid talking about teeth or before you know it we are 6 pages ahead.
Don't start a discussion about teeth around here, especially because you're British.
Teeth by Spike Milligan.
English Teeth, English Teeth!
Shining in the sun
A part of British heritage
Aye, each and every one.
English Teeth, Happy Teeth!
Always having fun
Clamping down on bits of fish
And sausages half done.
English Teeth! HEROES' Teeth!
Hear them click! and clack!
Let's sing a song of praise to them -
Three Cheers for the Brown, Grey and Black.
Thanks for this suggestion, Smithy; I was certainly enthralled with it! But I gave it a go on a spare spindle and the tape is too stiff. The spindles are quite small (about 0.8 mm dimensionally) and more fragile than they appear in the images.
The solution would be to pull the spindles and start over on them - that way I could work outside of the constraints imposed by the finished part (I would turn the spindles on a mini-lathe or use a rotary tool). But working the spindles on the finished steering wheel is just too risky. In this case I'm going to say that perfect is the enemy of good. I am happy to use the wheel as is and will do a better one the next time.
I think it looks great! As far as historical accuracy goes… AL and what is deemed feasible, is often triumphant over it!
Or you could just make it a story… it was a gift to the captain by his brother, who is a woodworker, and not wanting to offend him, gladly put it on his ship!
Hello friends,
Work continues building out the quarter deck...
But first a short diversion to scratch the itch created by my forum friend Dirk (@Dubz Modelling World). The guns carriages have now been fitted with smaller eyebolts (the quoin will be displayed on the deck alongside the gun):
And now returning to the subject of this post: the quarter deck breastworks. This is a guardrail of sorts that sits at the forward edge of the quarter deck. It has five posts, two rails with square holes, 10 sheaves in pairs of two, and follows the camber/roundup of the deck. In other words, there is a lot going on for what appears, on the surface, to be a simple railing.
After spending on inordinate amount of time looking at drawings of the breastwork and imagineering how I was going to get all the moving parts placed correctly...I took out my mini-lathe and made up some posts/stanchions:
Next, I wanted to profile the edge of the rails, and I chose to do this on the small mill:
The posts pass through the rails in square holes:
And now cleaned up:
As you can see, I made up some extra posts. And you can also see that they are all different
. There is a way of making a pattern duplicator for a lathe - and I should have done that a long time ago - but I didn't realize how often I would want to use it. In the end I neglected to follow the clear advice of Mr. Antscherl in TFFM in favor of expediency and am paying the price for that decision.
On we go. I then used the small mill to cut slots for the sheaves. The learning curve on this was that I need a better mill (with a digital readout), and I need a better way of securing parts to the bed of the mill (better than double sided tape). Then again, I did manage to squeeze out five usable parts from the seven that started the journey.
The rails were then bent to follow the camber of the deck, cut to their final length, and profiled on their ends:
The next trick was to drill holes in the quarter deck in the absolute perfect location to receive the pins I had placed in the foot of the posts (it might seem odd to post a picture of five holes, but this exercise was painstaking and deserved to be memorialized with its own photo
):
And here you go:
And that, dear friends, is how you lose yourself in a model for a week. Thanks for the visit!
Work continues building out the quarter deck...
But first a short diversion to scratch the itch created by my forum friend Dirk (@Dubz Modelling World). The guns carriages have now been fitted with smaller eyebolts (the quoin will be displayed on the deck alongside the gun):
And now returning to the subject of this post: the quarter deck breastworks. This is a guardrail of sorts that sits at the forward edge of the quarter deck. It has five posts, two rails with square holes, 10 sheaves in pairs of two, and follows the camber/roundup of the deck. In other words, there is a lot going on for what appears, on the surface, to be a simple railing.
After spending on inordinate amount of time looking at drawings of the breastwork and imagineering how I was going to get all the moving parts placed correctly...I took out my mini-lathe and made up some posts/stanchions:
Next, I wanted to profile the edge of the rails, and I chose to do this on the small mill:
The posts pass through the rails in square holes:
And now cleaned up:
As you can see, I made up some extra posts. And you can also see that they are all different
. There is a way of making a pattern duplicator for a lathe - and I should have done that a long time ago - but I didn't realize how often I would want to use it. In the end I neglected to follow the clear advice of Mr. Antscherl in TFFM in favor of expediency and am paying the price for that decision.On we go. I then used the small mill to cut slots for the sheaves. The learning curve on this was that I need a better mill (with a digital readout), and I need a better way of securing parts to the bed of the mill (better than double sided tape). Then again, I did manage to squeeze out five usable parts from the seven that started the journey.
The rails were then bent to follow the camber of the deck, cut to their final length, and profiled on their ends:
The next trick was to drill holes in the quarter deck in the absolute perfect location to receive the pins I had placed in the foot of the posts (it might seem odd to post a picture of five holes, but this exercise was painstaking and deserved to be memorialized with its own photo
):And here you go:
And that, dear friends, is how you lose yourself in a model for a week
. Thanks for the visit!
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I have this picture with king spokeThat’s my favourite part of your wheel then. Philosophically speaking.
Davis in The Built Up Ship Model, says there was a king spoke with some difference from the others so that the helmsman could find it in the dark by touch and know how much it was turned.
That only makes sense to me if he’s standing in front of the wheel though.
You are absolutely increasing you your lathing and milling skills, Paul. That looks very neat!Hello friends,
Work continues building out the quarter deck...
But first a short diversion to scratch the itch created by my forum friend Dirk (@Dubz Modelling World). The guns carriages have now been fitted with smaller eyebolts (the quoin will be displayed on the deck alongside the gun):
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And now returning to the subject of this post: the quarter deck breastworks. This is a guardrail of sorts that sits at the forward edge of the quarter deck. It has five posts, two rails with square holes, 10 sheaves in pairs of two, and follows the camber/roundup of the deck. In other words, there is a lot going on for what appears, on the surface, to be a simple guardrail.
After spending on inordinate amount of time looking at drawings of the breastwork and imagineering how I was going to get all the moving parts placed correctly...I took out my mini-lathe and made up some posts/stanchions:
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Next, I wanted to profile the edge of the rails, and I chose to do this on the small mill:
View attachment 484464
The posts pass through the rails in square holes:
View attachment 484465
View attachment 484466
And now cleaned up:
View attachment 484467
As you can see, I made up some extra posts. And you can also see that they are all different
On we go. I then used the small mill to cut slots for the sheaves. The learning curve on this was that I need a better mill (with a digital readout), and I need a better way of securing parts to the bed of the mill (better than double sided tape). Then again, I did manage to squeeze out five usable parts from the seven that started the journey.
View attachment 484468
The rails were then bent to follow the camber of the deck, cut to their final length, and profiled on their ends:
View attachment 484469
The next trick was to drill holes in the quarter deck in the absolute perfect location to receive the pins I had placed in the foot of the posts (it might seem odd to post a picture of five holes, but this exercise was painstaking and deserved to be memorialized with its own photo
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And here you go:
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And that, dear friends, is how you lose yourself in a model for a week
Regards, Peter
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Your tools and skills, never mind results, being so far superior to my own, I do not require, nor do I need any apologies from you regarding the quality of your finished work. It is, in two words, splendid and humbling. I suppose you join me in my admiration of the work produced by the 18th-19th c. French Prisoners of War that produced wonders of craftsmanship, working with essentially nothing, and many of whose methods and techniques remain a mystery. As do those of the producers of period admiralty models, who, even given their official backing, produced such wonders of craftsmanship and innovation as to boggle the mind!Hello friends,
Work continues building out the quarter deck...
But first a short diversion to scratch the itch created by my forum friend Dirk (@Dubz Modelling World). The guns carriages have now been fitted with smaller eyebolts (the quoin will be displayed on the deck alongside the gun):
View attachment 484471
And now returning to the subject of this post: the quarter deck breastworks. This is a guardrail of sorts that sits at the forward edge of the quarter deck. It has five posts, two rails with square holes, 10 sheaves in pairs of two, and follows the camber/roundup of the deck. In other words, there is a lot going on for what appears, on the surface, to be a simple guardrail.
After spending on inordinate amount of time looking at drawings of the breastwork and imagineering how I was going to get all the moving parts placed correctly...I took out my mini-lathe and made up some posts/stanchions:
View attachment 484462
View attachment 484463
Next, I wanted to profile the edge of the rails, and I chose to do this on the small mill:
View attachment 484464
The posts pass through the rails in square holes:
View attachment 484465
View attachment 484466
And now cleaned up:
View attachment 484467
As you can see, I made up some extra posts. And you can also see that they are all different
On we go. I then used the small mill to cut slots for the sheaves. The learning curve on this was that I need a better mill (with a digital readout), and I need a better way of securing parts to the bed of the mill (better than double sided tape). Then again, I did manage to squeeze out five usable parts from the seven that started the journey.
View attachment 484468
The rails were then bent to follow the camber of the deck, cut to their final length, and profiled on their ends:
View attachment 484469
The next trick was to drill holes in the quarter deck in the absolute perfect location to receive the pins I had placed in the foot of the posts (it might seem odd to post a picture of five holes, but this exercise was painstaking and deserved to be memorialized with its own photo
View attachment 484470
And here you go:
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And that, dear friends, is how you lose yourself in a model for a week
Pete