La Créole 1827 by archjofo - Scale 1/48 - French corvette

[CAFmodel]

This is completely a textbook that answered many of my doubts about rope making

 

[archjofo]

@Steef66
Hello Stephan,
Thanks for your contribution.
I think you'll agree with what follows.

@caf
Thank you for your interest.
Here's the continuation ...

Also, many thanks to everyone else for the likes.

Continuation: Fore yard – Leech lines and bunt lines / Cargo-fonds et cargo-boulines
I'm still wondering how the leech and bunt lines were secured without sails to prevent them from slipping off the blocks. After further research, I've now come across a stopper knot called the figure-eight knot (French: Noeud de huit).
This seems to be the ultimate stopper knot, especially well-suited for temporarily tying lines, such as leech and bunt lines without sails. When attaching the sails, it can be easily untied, even when attached to a block. It's stronger than a bowline and easier to control.
This is also how it is described in principle in "The Ashley Book of Knots" with reference to the Lever's Sheet , as the following excerpts show.


Source: The Ashley Book of Knots


Source: The young sea officer's sheet anchor; Darcey Lever, 1813

The French call this knot a "noeud de huit."

Once again, as so often with specific, detailed questions, G. Delacroix provided me with expert support. When I asked about the figure-eight knot in connection with leech and bunt lines, he told me that these knots are generally referred to as "stopper knots" in historical descriptions, and he could imagine that the figure-eight knot would have been quite suitable for this purpose and that its use is not uncommon.
As for L'Egyptienne 1799, the loop-shaped knots should be viewed with skepticism, as the rigging is likely questionable in terms of restoration.

In summary, I have come to the conclusion that I consider the figure-eight knot to be a completely historically credible variant for my model and will implement it accordingly.

To be continued...

 

[Kurt Konrath]

I have done sailing in small boats and we used that knot to keep the ends of lines from pulling thru pullies on main sheet and jibs, which is why it was called a stopper knot.

 

[Steef66]

I think you'll agree with what follows.

I agree, you have permission to use that knot. (joking)

Ashley explains it all, just have to find it.

 

[Peter Voogt]

@Steef66
Hello Stephan,
Thanks for your contribution.
I think you'll agree with what follows.

@caf
Thank you for your interest.
Here's the continuation ...

Also, many thanks to everyone else for the likes.

Continuation: Fore yard – Leech lines and bunt lines / Cargo-fonds et cargo-boulines
I'm still wondering how the leech and bunt lines were secured without sails to prevent them from slipping off the blocks. After further research, I've now come across a stopper knot called the figure-eight knot (French: Noeud de huit).
This seems to be the ultimate stopper knot, especially well-suited for temporarily tying lines, such as leech and bunt lines without sails. When attaching the sails, it can be easily untied, even when attached to a block. It's stronger than a bowline and easier to control.
This is also how it is described in principle in "The Ashley Book of Knots" with reference to the Lever's Sheet , as the following excerpts show.

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Source: The Ashley Book of Knots

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Source: The young sea officer's sheet anchor; Darcey Lever, 1813

The French call this knot a "noeud de huit."

Once again, as so often with specific, detailed questions, G. Delacroix provided me with expert support. When I asked about the figure-eight knot in connection with leech and bunt lines, he told me that these knots are generally referred to as "stopper knots" in historical descriptions, and he could imagine that the figure-eight knot would have been quite suitable for this purpose and that its use is not uncommon.
As for L'Egyptienne 1799, the loop-shaped knots should be viewed with skepticism, as the rigging is likely questionable in terms of restoration.

In summary, I have come to the conclusion that I consider the figure-eight knot to be a completely historically credible variant for my model and will implement it accordingly.

To be continued...

Nice to see here the figure-eight knot, Johann. In (mountain) climbing we often use the (double) eight to secure the rope to your climbing harness.
Regards, Peter