Le Saint Philippe 1693 after Jean-Claude Lemineur (Ancre) in scale 1:48

[dockattner]

Well, Paul, my first impulse was to reference Michele Padoan’s build, but for some reason I am unable to find it.

I read through Waldemar’s contributions to your build log, and I do believe that his interpretation of the drawing is correct; that the ends of the ledges would be let into the horizontal knees.

I also think he is correct to state that these unnecessarily heavy components would likely have been omitted in the superstructure, as the French were, by this time in 1693, keenly aware of overloading with top-hamper.

Hmm. A part of Michele's build report is still there but his most recent posts are now missing.

SAINT PHILIPPE scala 1:48

Buongiorno, inizio un nuovo progetto, il Saint Philippe. Sicuramente non è un modello per i meno esperti, viste le difficoltà soprattutto per la costruzione delle varie parti delle coste che richiedono la realizzazione di mortase per incastrarsi una all'altra (tutte da disegnare anche perché non...

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He shows more on the French Forum:

saint philippe - SAINT PHILIPPE 1/48 di Michele Padoan

saint philippe Bonsoir, je commence un nouveau chantier, celui du Saint Philippe. Ce n'est certes pas un modèle facile, vu les difficultés, notamment pour la co

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Regardless, Michele's build has been mothballed in favor of another ship model. He was not as far as the third deck so there is nothing there to see anyway.

And I do thank you, Marc, for sharing your thoughts on this puzzling (annoying?) situation.

 

[Hubac’s Historian]

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Many thanks, Marc . Especially your support is a huge psychological boost.

As for the strict requirements regarding the lightness for the upper structures, it would be admittedly rather troublesome now to find and quote specific, very numerous and scattered passages, but if anyone wishes to verify this, they can be found in the work Construction des Vaisseaux du Roy by an anonymous author, published in Havre de Grace in 1691 (and later reprinted in Brest in 1706), that is, almost exactly at the time of the construction of Le Saint Philippe.

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I am a great admirer of your work, Waldemar, precisely because you have dug deep into primary sources. Your scholarship is truly impressive. I like to think of you as a kind of “Key Master,” unlocking possibilities previously unexplored.

 

[Hubac’s Historian]

Hmm. A part of Michele's build report is still there but his most recent posts are now missing.

SAINT PHILIPPE scala 1:48

Buongiorno, inizio un nuovo progetto, il Saint Philippe. Sicuramente non è un modello per i meno esperti, viste le difficoltà soprattutto per la costruzione delle varie parti delle coste che richiedono la realizzazione di mortase per incastrarsi una all'altra (tutte da disegnare anche perché non...

shipsofscale.com

He shows more on the French Forum:

saint philippe - SAINT PHILIPPE 1/48 di Michele Padoan

saint philippe Bonsoir, je commence un nouveau chantier, celui du Saint Philippe. Ce n'est certes pas un modèle facile, vu les difficultés, notamment pour la co

5500.forumactif.org

Regardless, Michele's build has been mothballed in favor of another ship model. He was not as far as the third deck so there is nothing there to see anyway.

And I do thank you, Marc, for sharing your thoughts on this puzzling (annoying?) situation.

Interesting. If I remember, he is building the prototype for a collaboration with his friend, who developed a monograph of the Queen Charlotte.

 

[Jack Sparrow]

Just for you guys - here are the freshly installed knees:

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As you can see, the knees on the second deck have decorative ends:

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Including on the vertical elements:

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Carlings and ledges will follow...

Thanks for stopping by!

It's pretty amazing what you can accomplish with a set of diamond files and a mini saw. Great looking pics too. Congratulations

 

[dockattner]

It's pretty amazing what you can accomplish with a set of diamond files and a mini saw. Great looking pics too. Congratulations

Thanks, Cap'n.

 

[-Waldemar-]

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I am a great admirer of your work, Waldemar, precisely because you have dug deep into primary sources. Your scholarship is truly impressive. I like to think of you as a kind of “Key Master,” unlocking possibilities previously unexplored.

Many thanks, Marc . Although, I must say, it’s largely down to chance; I’m simply an oddball who happens to be interested in these conceptual issues, which for almost everyone else are, at best, a necessary evil, and hardly anyone bothers with them. This situation has its pros and cons. On the one hand, that is precisely why I’ve had the chance to make discoveries in this heavily neglected field; on the other hand, hardly anyone cares about their historical significance .

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