Le Saint Philippe 1693 after Jean-Claude Lemineur (Ancre) in scale 1:48

[Hubac’s Historian]

Your persistence is paying-off big-time, Paul!

 

[dockattner]

Thanks for the visit, Marc. Looking ahead I still see interpretive challenges. Sadly Nigel has set his SP aside (he does that, doesn’t he ), and M Padoan has been filling out the interior and has not posted the stern section above the wing transom.

 

[Hubac’s Historian]

The only advice I can offer you is to allow these geometric problems to percolate for a while before acting. It’s amazing what powers the sub-conscious has for problem-solving, while our active brain is doing other things.

 

[The Gavel]

On the other hand – there are some truly remarkable fellow modelers on the forum, so I’ll do my best to lean into those friends rather than allowing the others to take the joy out of my participation.

Paul! I'm so pleased that you are back at it and back in it. I often wonder about the failure to differentiate between perfection and excellence. I wonder too, whether getting it perfect doesn't just get in the way of striving for excellence in addition to being blasphemous.

Thank you for your decision to continue to share your striving for excellence, my friend! So, I'm onboard as usual - already in awe

Blessings. Peace. Gratitude.
Chuck

 

[The Gavel]

The only advice I can offer you is to allow these geometric problems to percolate for a while before acting. It’s amazing what powers the sub-conscious has for problem-solving, while our active brain is doing other things.

Couldn't agree more! I had to think about a problem for 6 months until my "aha!" moment came. Some how, Paul, I don't think you'll need quite as long.

Blessings.
Chuck

 

[dockattner]

Thanks for visiting, Chuck!

 

[Nomad]

Hi Paul, I've been out of circulation for a number of months but was delighted to return to the forum and find that you've started a new build. Looking forward to following your progress, which, going by your previous builds, will no doubt be interesting, informative, and successful

 

[RogerD]

…… This announcement is most unexpected as it was only one short week ago, during a wellness check initiated by his devoted wife of forty years, that agents overheard Dr. Kattner run together a string of profane words rarely heard in civilized society. This from an eyewitness, "never before have I heard profanity elevated to the level of art. The subject's ability to keep tempo, rhythm, and crescendo in such perfect balance while simultaneously providing such breadth of vulgarity...it was breathtaking. The man is a walking thesaurus of obscenity!"

*$#! what the &#+!! it’s *//!*# -$##! in $+#!

Truly beautiful work Paul, so much so I’m practicing your technique before I grab an hour at the workbench today .

 

[Jimsky]

*$#! what the &#+!! it’s *//!*# -$##! in $+#!

 

[The Gavel]

" I am just a vagabond
a drifter on the run,
and eloquent profanity just rolls right off my tongue...

And I have dined in palaces,
drunk wine with kings and queens,
But darlin', oh darlin'
You're the best thing I've ever seen"-
from "Roll 'Em Easy" by Lowell George of "LIttle Feat"

I always could appreciate a well-formed, zaftig butt!

Pete

Pete! You got there before me! As I was absorbing the lovely curves of the "butt end" of this ship, I was remided of Paul's mermaid carving for Kingfisher. I thought it might be to indiscrete to point out Paul's obvious fascination (one I share in spades ) with in your words "a well-formed, zaftig (excellent word choice, Pete!) butt!"

Blessings.
Chuck

 

[dockattner]

Hi Paul, I've been out of circulation for a number of months but was delighted to return to the forum and find that you've started a new build. Looking forward to following your progress, which, going by your previous builds, will no doubt be interesting, informative, and successful

Many thanks, Mark. I share your anticipation for what the future holds!

 

[dockattner]

*$#! what the &#+!! it’s *//!*# -$##! in $+#!

Truly beautiful work Paul, so much so I’m practicing your technique before I grab an hour at the workbench today .

Good strategy, Roger. Of course, this approach may have some untoward side-effects...

 

[Frank48]

We interrupt today's broadcast of the Golf Channel with breaking news: just moments ago American hobbyist Paul Kattner declared victory over a small wooden ship.

This announcement is most unexpected as it was only one short week ago, during a wellness check initiated by his devoted wife of forty years, that agents overheard Dr. Kattner run together a string of profane words rarely heard in civilized society. This from an eyewitness, "never before have I heard profanity elevated to the level of art. The subject's ability to keep tempo, rhythm, and crescendo in such perfect balance while simultaneously providing such breadth of vulgarity...it was breathtaking. The man is a walking thesaurus of obscenity!"



Anyway, here's way too many pictures of the butt end of a ship model:

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Yes, I know I'm not the first guy on the planet to fair a few frames - but I'm strangely delighted by this particular outcome considering the dark places I traveled through to get here.

I'm checking out for a bit to go on a family fishing trip next week, but I'll be back as long as I survive fishing with three grandchildren in the boat at the same time. Model on! And thanks very much for stopping by!

Hi Paul , how come the frames are not positioned at 90° to the keel?Frank

 

[RussF]

Hi Paul , how come the frames are not positioned at 90° to the keel?Frank

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Paul explains that in Post #2

 

[dockattner]

Hi Paul , how come the frames are not positioned at 90° to the keel?Frank

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Hi Frank. This is an excellent observation! Mr. Lemineur believes the frames tip forward 1.2 degrees. Many people have challenged this conclusion but since his plans show this unusual feature and I am trying to faithfully follow those drawings I have reproduced his design.

This feature makes it very difficult for me and I wish the plans were not drawn in this way - but they are.

Again, my admiration that you have noticed this unexpected design feature.

 

[Frank48]

Hi Frank. This is an excellent observation! Mr. Lemineur believes the frames tip forward 1.2 degrees. Many people have challenged this conclusion but since his plans show this unusual feature and I am trying to faithfully follow those drawings I have reproduced his design.

This feature makes it very difficult for me and I wish the plans were not drawn in this way - but they are.

Again, my admiration that you have noticed this unexpected design feature.

Bye Paul , Thanks for answering me, in the monograph the frames are perpendicular to the keel but , it is too strange this that position, if anything it is the keel that should be positioned differently from the baseline.Frank

 

[Peter Voogt]

Hi Paul , how come the frames are not positioned at 90° to the keel?Frank

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Hi Frank. This is an excellent observation! Mr. Lemineur believes the frames tip forward 1.2 degrees. Many people have challenged this conclusion but since his plans show this unusual feature and I am trying to faithfully follow those drawings I have reproduced his design.

This feature makes it very difficult for me and I wish the plans were not drawn in this way - but they are.

Again, my admiration that you have noticed this unexpected design feature.

Bye Paul , Thanks for answering me, in the monograph the frames are perpendicular to the keel but , it is too strange this that position, if anything it is the keel that should be positioned differently from the baseline.Frank

This is all about the ‘trim’ of a ship.
Here’s a interesting article: MaritimePage
The main conclusion:
The term “trim” refers to the fore-and-aft balance of a ship It is the difference between the draft forward and aft. When a vessel is properly trimmed, her stern sits lower in the water than her bow, which gives her more speed and maneuverability. The word “trim” can also be used to refer to the act of adjusting a ship’s ballast to achieve this ideal balance.

Maarten @Maarten also wrote about thatin post #15:
the draft on the rear is more than at the bow

Mr. Lemineur believes the frames tip forward 1.2 degrees.

As you already made a ramp of 1.2 dgr under you keel, the frames are not tilted …… Rotate that part of the drawings 1.2 dgr counterclockwise and they are standing correct …… in opposite of the waterline. It’s common to build the frame perpendiculair to the waterline and the constructor determines how much trim they want to give the ship/keel.
Regards, Peter