Le Soleil Royal ZHL Build Log [COMPLETED BUILD]

[Jimsky]

On the French (Continental) carriages, the breeching line goes inside the cartridge, while the British cannons are equipped with a breeching line around the Pommelion or Cascabel. In the latter 18th century, the breeching line on the English cannons goes thru the breeching ring instead of around cascabel. Not only the breeching line was different, but the 'Train tackle' also was differed from each other. Check out the image below.



P.S. On the lower right side of the image, it shows the Blomfield patent barrel (with Britching ring).

 

[Gilbertm]

Looking at the gun carriages. Does the recoil rope go through the carriage on French ships of the period, or around the ball at the back of the gun?View attachment 247824

Hi Vic,
On mine, I had the rope go thru the carriage.
BUt not sure of this is correct

 

[Vfordyce]

On the French (Continental) carriages, the breeching line goes inside the cartridge, while the British cannons are equipped with a breeching line around the Pommelion or Cascabel. In the latter 18th century, the breeching line on the English cannons goes thru the breeching ring instead of around cascabel. Not only the breeching line was different, but the 'Train tackle' also was differed from each other. Check out the image below.

View attachment 247825

P.S. On the lower right side of the image, it shows the Blomfield patent barrel (with Britching ring).

That's what I thought. It looks like the gun tackle and train tackle are hooked to the same eyebolt.

 

[Vfordyce]

I figure this is the way the bowsprit should be angled.

But this is the angle after I put the front piece on.
something doesn’t look right. And that’s after I chiseled 4-5 mm off the piece it’s sitting on.

 

[Gilbertm]

I figure this is the way the bowsprit should be angled.
View attachment 247880
But this is the angle after I put the front piece on. View attachment 247881
something doesn’t look right. And that’s after I chiseled 4-5 mm off the piece it’s sitting on.

Hi Vic
Regarding this from piece that come on front of bulkhead #1 some ZHL SR models I have seen on ships of scale do put a strong bend on this piece (see the log from Paulb). I personally did not do that and laid it flat.
Note that I have not tried to see how does the bowsprit look like. I'll have to figure that out in the near future.

 

[Jack Sparrow]

I figure this is the way the bowsprit should be angled.
View attachment 247880
But this is the angle after I put the front piece on. View attachment 247881
something doesn’t look right. And that’s after I chiseled 4-5 mm off the piece it’s sitting on.

Based on some ships that I have done in the past, I would say that second photo with the steep angle is wrong. Question if you were to make the groove deeper on that piece, will that misalign the openings relative to the decks? Hope I am making sense.

 

[Vfordyce]

Based on some ships that I have done in the past, I would say that second photo with the steep angle is wrong. Question if you were to make the groove deeper on that piece, will that misalign the openings relative to the decks? Hope I am making sense.

I don’t know yet. I may cut off the piece on which it stands.

 

[Jack Sparrow]

I don’t know yet. I may cut off the piece on which it stands.

or maybe adjust the hole for the bowsprit. Doesn't it get planked over anyways, so even if the bowsprit hole is shifted, you wouldn't see that, I think.

 

[Vfordyce]

or maybe adjust the hole for the bowsprit. Doesn't it get planked over anyways, so even if the bowsprit hole is shifted, you wouldn't see that, I think.

The top sits a little high, too.

 

[debauchery]

I figure this is the way the bowsprit should be angled.
View attachment 247880
But this is the angle after I put the front piece on. View attachment 247881
something doesn’t look right. And that’s after I chiseled 4-5 mm off the piece it’s sitting on.

The way you had it in the first photo is correct. Mine was the same. I took a dremel with a burr (handy device) and brought it down.

 

[debauchery]

I see we've been posting back and forth between this build log and another. When you glue those gun boxes use alot.... I used a quik dry tacky glue. If you can, figure out something that will give you more retention.

 

[Vfordyce]

I see we've been posting back and forth between this build log and another. When you glue those gun boxes use alot.... I used a quik dry tacky glue. If you can, figure out something that will give you more retention.

Thanks!

 

[Vfordyce]

Based on some ships that I have done in the past, I would say that second photo with the steep angle is wrong. Question if you were to make the groove deeper on that piece, will that misalign the openings relative to the decks? Hope I am making sense.

The openings already sit too low for the bottom two guns imho. I think they would blow a hole through the gold ornaments, rigging, and bow sails.

 

[Vfordyce]

I wonder if I made a mistake by sanding the first few bulkheads and the support pieces on the bow beforehand. That might have caused the support piece to be too high by about 5mm. That might also have accounted for my bowsprit and mini deck problems.

 

[Vfordyce]

Also, there is not enough room for the lower forward gun boxes behind the front piece. I thought about trimming the boxes, but that would make the guns stick out too far. Seems like a couple of options present themselves: 1) close the ports off; 2) use something like styrofoam to stick the bottom two guns in.

 

[Jack Sparrow]

And if you made the bowsprit hole bigger, would that help?

 

[Vfordyce]

I’ve trimmed some pieces under the deck and drilled out the holes for the bowsprit. It’s still not flush all the way, but I’m afraid to go any further.

 

[Jack Sparrow]

It doesn't look too bad now if you ask me. when you do the gammoning, that should tighten things up a little too.

 

[Vfordyce]

It doesn't look too bad now if you ask me. when you do the gammoning, that should tighten things up a little too.

Yep. That’s what I figured.

 

[debauchery]

I’ve trimmed some pieces under the deck and drilled out the holes for the bowsprit. It’s still not flush all the way, but I’m afraid to go any further. View attachment 248018

ON mine, i went into the deck until the bowsprit sat flush on both bow pieces.