L'Orenoque Mamoli 1:100 scale

[The Gavel]

well, you're getting proper stuck in !

Certainly does have a big hole in the deck !

Everything french i've got from that period has rake to the main and mizzen, at least. You can see clearly on the new york/descartes plans , and frankly i have never seen a ship without some rake on these masts. Maybe the fore could be 90°, galeons were raked forard on this mast, but i would be inclined to give it a degree or so.

Martin! Good eye on the New Yorck/Descartes plans. The main has a slight rake and the mizzen a tad bit more. I will try to print and determine the angle.

As to the deck - next steps include thickening the structural beams to support the deck near the hole and closing the hole completely.

i had not seen these before. quite ingenious.

Yes! Shipmodell.com had the plans which clearly match the L'Orenoque plans. In fact, I will simply build the paddle wheel housing from scratch based on the historical ship. I look forward to the metal work!!!

 

[The Gavel]

sorry about the hospital stuff, my mistake, not sure where that came from. just troop transport and prisoners of war.

Excellent, Martin! I thought I had gone mad for a moment . In the end, although I may put the name L'Orenoque on her stern, she will combine elements of Descartes, Panama and Magellan, because I have access to historical information about how these ships looked inboard and how they were actually rigged and armed.

 

[Peter Gutterman]

Welcome to the wonderful world of building Mamoli. The "Google" English translations are, as I said, practically whimsical and "spare" is the kindest word I can think of to describe their detail and complexity. Looks like they gave you (almost) enough bulkheads to create a halfway decent hull around them. The discrepancies you are discovering as you proceed with your assembly are typical of Mamoli kits. An awful lot of research and kit bashing are required (at least in all three cases in my experience) to build the ship ostensibly offered by the company, even with Dusek's considerable (and in many ways effective) efforts to improve their product line.
A lot more could be done. But they have to remain cost effective in order to stay in business. Looks like they are doing fairly well. I wish them success in a narrow, competitive and selective field.
I wish to be transparent, but not unkind. I have thought enough of their products to have a go at three, (with one more in my stash) if only because they offer ships that I want to build currently unavailable from other manufacturers.
Actually, starting from scratch would be far less challenging and frustrating in many ways. (See the build logs from the Lumberyard For model ships.) Nothing to correct first thing out of the box. At least you are in full control from the get-go.
caveat: IMHO

Pete

 

[ROUGHLY MARTIN]

If you are set up I'll get back to my garden , for a while. Can't manage much modeling at the moment, i have to keep flying back to England to sort out my mothers estate, and when i get back the veggies are overgrown again ! i will look in when i can and if i get anything juicy i'll post it on to you. Happy modelling.

 

[The Gavel]

Welcome to the wonderful world of building Mamoli. The "Google" English translations are, as I said, practically whimsical and "spare" is the kindest word I can think of to describe their detail and complexity. Looks like they gave you (almost) enough bulkheads to create a halfway decent hull around them. The discrepancies you are discovering as you proceed with your assembly are typical of Mamoli kits. An awful lot of research and kit bashing are required (at least in all three cases in my experience) to build the ship ostensibly offered by the company, even with Dusek's considerable (and in many ways effective) efforts to improve their product line.
A lot more could be done. But they have to remain cost effective in order to stay in business. Looks like they are doing fairly well. I wish them success in a narrow, competitive and selective field.
I wish to be transparent, but not unkind. I have thought enough of their products to have a go at three, (with one more in my stash) if only because they offer ships that I want to build currently unavailable from other manufacturers.
Actually, starting from scratch would be far less challenging and frustrating in many ways. (See the build logs from the Lumberyard For model ships.) Nothing to correct first thing out of the box. At least you are in full control from the get-go.
caveat: IMHO

Pete

Pete! I hear you! I'm not set up for scratch building. So, given my interest in these sidewheel warships I have to work with and enjoy what's on offer . This kit will turn out great and I remain excited about building her even though there are a lot of errors that make the kit something other than a relatively accurate representation of a historical ship.

Blessings. Peace. Gratitude.
Chuck

 

[The Gavel]

If you are set up I'll get back to my garden , for a while. Can't manage much modeling at the moment, i have to keep flying back to England to sort out my mothers estate, and when i get back the veggies are overgrown again ! i will look in when i can and if i get anything juicy i'll post it on to you. Happy modelling.

Martin! Thank you for all of your input! I am pretty well set up at this point thanks to you! I am sorry to learn about your loss. I hope you are successful sorting out your mother's estate with little cost to your spirit or your pocket - I had to do the same thing back in 2009. On another note, if you stop giving your veggies steroids they won't be overgrown when you get back to them

Blessings. Peace. Gratitude.
Chuck

 

[The Gavel]

What ho, shipmates!

This is a really short one - too late to deal with the pictures, etc. tonight. Briefly, all of the framing is attached, the stiffening beams are attached, the additional beams to support the deck are attached, the Huge hole in the deck is closed, and I have made and attached the mast steps at the correct (I think) rakes - on that note I sincerely apologize to Mamoli/Dusek for saying that the masting instructions directed one to rake the foremast forward a bit and leave the main and mizzen at 90 degrees to the keel. The instructions actually say:



I took measurements from a plan for the Descartes (oddly the only plan that I have found that shows the masts raked rather than at 90 degrees to the keel) that I had printed today. Foremast rake 1 degree aft. Mainmast rake 3 degrees aft. Mizzen mast rake 4 degrees aft. I'm sure that I would have had all of the masts vertical, but my version of "slightly bent towards the poop" might have been off half a degree or so

I'll post pics of all of the fun soon - maybe even tomorrow - we'll see . . . .

Blessings. Peace. Gratitude.
Chuck