Wow! That is going to look really nice when it all comes together!
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L'Orenoque Mamoli 1:100 scale
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Looks like you are bending your mind to it ... i was more occupied with support for model structure rather than full size, gluing the structures direct to the hull seemed a bit flimsy to my mind (it's one of my faults, i tend to overengineer) but i am not sure that the steel support structures you point out were not partly to protect the wheels from floating logs etc. when operating close to shore. It had certainly crossed my mind.
Good morning Chuck. Quality stuff. Going to look fabulous. I missed your Birthday so Happy Belated Birthday Chuck. I hope you had a good one. Cheers GrantWhat ho, shipmates!
I'm giving my self too little time, again. Class in 20 minutes.
Here's how the sponsons came together: First, the kit plan (shown below) is complete fantasy. I won't repeat the long list of other inaccuracies of the kit sponsons I catalogued in earlier posts. Note the number of supports. Although, I now believe that there were supports for the sponsons, this is too much. None of the available plans for the class of ship (450 hp steam frigate) show the supports, but the models of smaller ships show a more elegant solution which I intend to replicate. That solution was iron rather than huge balks of timber. I wrote that "I now believe" that some support is necessary because before I hadn't thought of the weight of the bateaux tambours, almost 2.5 tons sitting outboard atop the sponsons. Martin @Martin By Eye, I know that we discussed the issue an were thinking perhaps the weight could have been born without lower supports because the sponsons were so stoutly attached to the fabric of the hull and the bulwarks.
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Below is a shot of the basic parts of my sponson solution. Upper left - red arrows - I built a frame to sit over the wheels with the inboard side resting on top of the bulwark and against the side of the ship (I added scrap to the inboard side of the wheels so that I had 1/16" clearance between the wheel and the interior of the housing inboard. Next - blue arrows - show the separate fore and aft water closet structures with the one aft having a gangway for coming aboard in accordance with the original plan. I built these structures and then glued the forward structure to the larger box. Once I was satisfied the glue was dry and things were still mainly level and square, I glued the aft structure to the whole. The result was a complete structure that can be removed without problem while I work on the rest of the ship. Next - magenta arrows - the water closed tops and the light green arrows pointing at the aft structure and pointing out the scuppers - there are scuppers on the forward water closet as well - had to see in this picture.
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That's it for the moment. I gotta go teach
A nice puzzle to get all the parts together, Chuck.What ho, shipmates!
I'm giving my self too little time, again. Class in 20 minutes.
Here's how the sponsons came together: First, the kit plan (shown below) is complete fantasy. I won't repeat the long list of other inaccuracies of the kit sponsons I catalogued in earlier posts. Note the number of supports. Although, I now believe that there were supports for the sponsons, this is too much. None of the available plans for the class of ship (450 hp steam frigate) show the supports, but the models of smaller ships show a more elegant solution which I intend to replicate. That solution was iron rather than huge balks of timber. I wrote that "I now believe" that some support is necessary because before I hadn't thought of the weight of the bateaux tambours, almost 2.5 tons sitting outboard atop the sponsons. Martin @Martin By Eye, I know that we discussed the issue an were thinking perhaps the weight could have been born without lower supports because the sponsons were so stoutly attached to the fabric of the hull and the bulwarks.
View attachment 554802
Below is a shot of the basic parts of my sponson solution. Upper left - red arrows - I built a frame to sit over the wheels with the inboard side resting on top of the bulwark and against the side of the ship (I added scrap to the inboard side of the wheels so that I had 1/16" clearance between the wheel and the interior of the housing inboard. Next - blue arrows - show the separate fore and aft water closet structures with the one aft having a gangway for coming aboard in accordance with the original plan. I built these structures and then glued the forward structure to the larger box. Once I was satisfied the glue was dry and things were still mainly level and square, I glued the aft structure to the whole. The result was a complete structure that can be removed without problem while I work on the rest of the ship. Next - magenta arrows - the water closed tops and the light green arrows pointing at the aft structure and pointing out the scuppers - there are scuppers on the forward water closet as well - had to see in this picture.
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That's it for the moment. I gotta go teach
Regards, Peter