• Win a Free Custom Engraved Brass Coin!!!
    As a way to introduce our brass coins to the community, we will raffle off a free coin during the month of August. Follow link ABOVE for instructions for entering.

L'Orenoque Mamoli 1:100 scale

Looks like you are bending your mind to it ... i was more occupied with support for model structure rather than full size, gluing the structures direct to the hull seemed a bit flimsy to my mind (it's one of my faults, i tend to overengineer) but i am not sure that the steel support structures you point out were not partly to protect the wheels from floating logs etc. when operating close to shore. It had certainly crossed my mind.
 
The Gavel said:
What ho, shipmates!

I'm giving my self too little time, again. Class in 20 minutes.

Here's how the sponsons came together: First, the kit plan (shown below) is complete fantasy. I won't repeat the long list of other inaccuracies of the kit sponsons I catalogued in earlier posts. Note the number of supports. Although, I now believe that there were supports for the sponsons, this is too much. None of the available plans for the class of ship (450 hp steam frigate) show the supports, but the models of smaller ships show a more elegant solution which I intend to replicate. That solution was iron rather than huge balks of timber. I wrote that "I now believe" that some support is necessary because before I hadn't thought of the weight of the bateaux tambours, almost 2.5 tons sitting outboard atop the sponsons. Martin @Martin By Eye, I know that we discussed the issue an were thinking perhaps the weight could have been born without lower supports because the sponsons were so stoutly attached to the fabric of the hull and the bulwarks.
View attachment 554802

Below is a shot of the basic parts of my sponson solution. Upper left - red arrows - I built a frame to sit over the wheels with the inboard side resting on top of the bulwark and against the side of the ship (I added scrap to the inboard side of the wheels so that I had 1/16" clearance between the wheel and the interior of the housing inboard. Next - blue arrows - show the separate fore and aft water closet structures with the one aft having a gangway for coming aboard in accordance with the original plan. I built these structures and then glued the forward structure to the larger box. Once I was satisfied the glue was dry and things were still mainly level and square, I glued the aft structure to the whole. The result was a complete structure that can be removed without problem while I work on the rest of the ship. Next - magenta arrows - the water closed tops and the light green arrows pointing at the aft structure and pointing out the scuppers - there are scuppers on the forward water closet as well - had to see in this picture.

View attachment 554803

That's it for the moment. I gotta go teach :eek: :eek: :eek:
Click to expand...
Good morning Chuck. Quality stuff. Going to look fabulous. I missed your Birthday so Happy Belated Birthday Chuck. I hope you had a good one. Cheers Grant
 
The Gavel said:
What ho, shipmates!

I'm giving my self too little time, again. Class in 20 minutes.

Here's how the sponsons came together: First, the kit plan (shown below) is complete fantasy. I won't repeat the long list of other inaccuracies of the kit sponsons I catalogued in earlier posts. Note the number of supports. Although, I now believe that there were supports for the sponsons, this is too much. None of the available plans for the class of ship (450 hp steam frigate) show the supports, but the models of smaller ships show a more elegant solution which I intend to replicate. That solution was iron rather than huge balks of timber. I wrote that "I now believe" that some support is necessary because before I hadn't thought of the weight of the bateaux tambours, almost 2.5 tons sitting outboard atop the sponsons. Martin @Martin By Eye, I know that we discussed the issue an were thinking perhaps the weight could have been born without lower supports because the sponsons were so stoutly attached to the fabric of the hull and the bulwarks.
View attachment 554802

Below is a shot of the basic parts of my sponson solution. Upper left - red arrows - I built a frame to sit over the wheels with the inboard side resting on top of the bulwark and against the side of the ship (I added scrap to the inboard side of the wheels so that I had 1/16" clearance between the wheel and the interior of the housing inboard. Next - blue arrows - show the separate fore and aft water closet structures with the one aft having a gangway for coming aboard in accordance with the original plan. I built these structures and then glued the forward structure to the larger box. Once I was satisfied the glue was dry and things were still mainly level and square, I glued the aft structure to the whole. The result was a complete structure that can be removed without problem while I work on the rest of the ship. Next - magenta arrows - the water closed tops and the light green arrows pointing at the aft structure and pointing out the scuppers - there are scuppers on the forward water closet as well - had to see in this picture.

View attachment 554803

That's it for the moment. I gotta go teach :eek: :eek: :eek:
Click to expand...
A nice puzzle to get all the parts together, Chuck.
Regards, Peter
 
What ho, shipmates!

It's Friday evening at Shangri-la and I don't teach again for a week! Don't get me wrong. I LOVE my gig, but it is nice to have some time to focus on other important and life-giving work :D

Here are some pics of how the pieces came together. Note: one of the more helpful tools I've discovered is a nice thick piece of glass. I glues the sub-parts of all of the sponson components together on glass! I hope the pics are self explanatory. Happy to give more informatio if requested.

Ok. The pictures are not in perfect order. I'll leave it to you to puzzel it outROTF I know that the screen mesh I amusing for gratings is way out of scale. It looks a bit better painted.

LO sponson aboard partial.jpgLO sponson aboard partial 2.jpgLO sponson aboard oh 3.jpgLO sponson assembly oh 2.jpg

LO sponson assembly oh 2.jpg

LO sponson assembly overhead.jpg
 
After I got the major components finished and fitted, I had to put doors on the fore and aft parts so that sailors could go out onto the sponsons and personnel could get onto the main deck from the aft gangway.

LO sponson wc coverings.jpg

Once I had a skin with the cut out for the door, I glued the skin to the top part of what I am calling the w/c and then glued that part to the sponson assembly. Then, time to paint.

LO sponson wc coverings aboard.jpg
LO sponson fin wo paint.jpg
LO sponson fin w paint 1.jpgLO sponson fin w paint 2.jpgLO sponson fin w paint 3.jpgLO sponson fin w paint 4.jpglo sponson fin w paint 5.jpg
 
And, shipmates, as we come to the close of this session: I finished coppering the hull and added her name to her stern and painted the open gun ports red.

A few posts back Paul @dockattner asked whether I would repeat the green on the wheels elsewhere. Paul, I'd like to do that. I am thinking the gun carriages and the doors on the inboard parts of the sponsons and maybe the ladders and the bridge. I also thought to paint the funnel that lovely green. We'll see - I'd be glad to have my shipmates' thoughts. I think painting the funnel other than black may be too far out of touch with historical accuracy. Whether that impacts my decisions is anyone's guessROTF

LO nov 5 1.jpglo nov 5 2.jpgLO nov 5 3.jpgLO nov 5 4.jpglo nov 5 5.jpglo nov 5 6.jpg
 
The Gavel said:
And, shipmates, as we come to the close of this session: I finished coppering the hull and added her name to her stern and painted the open gun ports red.

A few posts back Paul @dockattner asked whether I would repeat the green on the wheels elsewhere. Paul, I'd like to do that. I am thinking the gun carriages and the doors on the inboard parts of the sponsons and maybe the ladders and the bridge. I also thought to paint the funnel that lovely green. We'll see - I'd be glad to have my shipmates' thoughts. I think painting the funnel other than black may be too far out of touch with historical accuracy. Whether that impacts my decisions is anyone's guessROTF

View attachment 555415View attachment 555416View attachment 555417View attachment 555418View attachment 555419View attachment 555420
Click to expand...
Brilliant, as usual! You are right: that mesh works very well. WRT the funnel, perhaps a compromise: paint the funnel black, but with a couple of green rings.
 
The Gavel said:
What ho, shipmates!

I am sorry for the long delays between posts and leaving your kind comments hanging out there without a proper response. Please know that I will send you each the individual response you deserve. In the end, I never fail to meet kindness with kindness.

So, as I warned you, the new academic year with a reborn Professor Henson has been a terrific distraction from my hobbies. AND THEN THE ADMIRAL SAID: "Honey, please make me a desk." So I made the desk and a book case inspiried by Mondiran.

View attachment 550264View attachment 550265View attachment 550266View attachment 550267View attachment 550268
Click to expand...
Very stylish cabinet and an eclectic collection.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top