Making Cannon

Tobias said:
Hello Allan @AllanKP69 , I have just found your report, very interesting topic as I am currently in the stage of carriages and cannons. I should say that it is more about French guns. As I read at the beginning, you are looking for information specifically about French and Spanish guns. I can give you information here if you are interested. I recommend the book by Ancre "Artillerie de Mer".

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NAVAL ARTILLERY French navy 1650-1850 - Ancre

French navy 1650-1850An Historical and Technical Study Set of 93 plates. NEW ENGLISH VERSION
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Here is the link to the publisher Ancre.

Oh, then I found another picture where I assume that one of the two men is you.
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Hi AllanKP69, the person standing by YOUR side (with leather jacket) is Tiziano Mainardi one of the best Naval modelers in Arsenal construction of International level.Frank
 
Frank48 said:
Hi AllanKP69, the person standing by YOUR side (with leather jacket) is Tiziano Mainardi one of the best Naval modelers in Arsenal construction of International level.Frank
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And he is a very nice person, We did argue over who would pay for lunch so I signed his copies of the Euryalus books and he paid the lunch bill. We were both happy in the end.
Allan
 
AllanKP69 said:
And he is a very nice person, We did argue over who would pay for lunch so I signed his copies of the Euryalus books and he paid the lunch bill. We were both happy in the end.
Allan
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Hi Allan, yes he is a real decent person, I have known him for about 15 years.Franck
 
Good Morning Allan
Fascinating reading thank you, could you please explain how you made the axel cutters in a bit more detail. I'm at that stage and have done some by hand with a file using 3mm x 3mm but not happy with them. yours come out immaculate and look fantastic. Regards Mark
 
Hi Mark
I am traveling the next couple days but will take some more photos and add some text on a cutter I am making for a current project when I get back home.
Allan
 
Artilleryman said:
Comments and errors correction are welcome
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Ciao Carlo
I don't think this looks like the cannon in the AoS book for Alert 1777 by Goodwin. Yours shows a Blomefield cannon which was not invented until about 1790 and was not standard issue in the RN until 1794. It is also missing an eyebolt as I am pretty sure the carriages for Armstrong Fredericks (1760-1790) and Blomefields had a ring bolt and two eye bolts on each bracket.
Allan
 
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Ciao Allan
Thanks for the comment, if you have the right carriage drawing for this 6pr 6ft , I will redo the drawing .
I du not understand where the eyebolt is missing , be kind and give me a graphic indication/correction on the DWG or a screenshot
Buona serata
Carlo
 
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The below are from Adrian Caruana's The History of English Sea Ordnance, pages 376-378. These are NOT for a six pounder, but the design is the same, just larger as they were for larger caliber and longer guns than a six foot six pounder. I think the below chart which I believe has been posted by other members can be useful in scaling the carriages you need. My apologies for the poor quality photography.
Allan
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1732- 1759 pattern
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1760- 1790 pattern
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1791 pattern
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OK thank you !
Given the dates you indicated for the Blomefield, the carriage that I will use will be the 1791 pattern
I also understood where the missing eyebolt is placed Thumbs-Up
Thanks again and good evening
 
The Blomefield pattern carriages also had cleats and breasts added to the brackets by the time of Trafalgar so there were variations of the Blomefield carriages over time.
Allan
 
A very interesting threat here. I'll admit, I've been thinking a lot about how to craft cannons for my own build. While I certainly wish I had a lathe, I managed to find another way to craft them using brass. If the results come out well, I'll be sure to post them here! In the mean time, I'll watch and read with interest.
 
Na Daeyong's Apprentice said:
I'll admit, I've been thinking a lot about how to craft cannons for my own build.
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What ship/nation/year? I have over 100 drawings, including STLs of various lengths, bores and patterns from the 17th century into the early 19th century that you can use to have someone print them in black resin if I have the appropriate ones that you need in the collection.
Allan
 
kidsgalore said:
I'm at that stage and have done some by hand with a file using 3mm x 3mm but not happy with them. yours come out immaculate and look fantastic. Regards Mark
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Sorry for the late reply, I totally forgot to follow up. I just posted a few pics of a very small axle cutter I made in the build log for Litchfield. https://shipsofscale.com/sosforums/...d-48-1695-1-64-scale.15460/page-2#post-416067 post number 36.

I have a lathe so it is easy but I have also used brass rod with the appropriate ID. If the ID is not exact, I have drilled it out for a few mm in depth so it will be exactly the diameter I need for any given axle. I have a cheap razor saw to cut the slots on the smallest cutters. A hacksaw is better for larger diameter cutters. Large ships with two or three cannon sizes require an axle cutter for each caliber as the axle diameter was just over the diameter of the bore as you can see in the chart above. I hope this helps, but if you need more information, please do not hesitate to let me know.
Allan
 
AllanKP69 said:
What ship/nation/year? I have over 100 drawings, including STLs of various lengths, bores and patterns from the 17th century into the early 19th century that you can use to have someone print them in black resin if I have the appropriate ones that you need in the collection.
Allan
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A slightly different variety than the ones on here. It is a late 16th century Panokseon from the Korean Navy, which utilized what were called "chongtong" cannons which were similar to Ming China's. They're not something I assume many books cover.
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I don't have a lathe, but I already have some ideas in using some small gauge brass pipes and some CA Glue or JB Weld. That being said, I am open to additional ideas.
 
Ciao Allan
As you may have guessed, I have a "hankering" for the 32pr 42ctw Monk pattern , since one of these ordnance is at Fort Nelson in Portsmouth, I wrote to the Palmerston Forts Society to find out if they had any drawings or photographs, to better understand the details of the carriage
They were very kind and sent me the attached PDF authorizing me to post it on the SoS forum .... et voilà

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Great topic, thanks for sharing.
You are aware about the interesting book of "Wolfram zu Mondfeld, Anton Bayerling, Marietta Klingenbrunn. Schiffsgeschutze 1350 bis 1870 Band I"

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There is a Russian site where you can find a copy/scan of the book. It is not a perfect scan but good to read and see if you want to buy it. On Abebooks I see a few copies and when you google there is possible more to find. Price around 30 to 60. I like the book, it is in German and I don't know if there are other translations of this book.
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