Making Cannon

-Waldemar- said:
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I am sorry, but you have not convinced me with these examples cited, which are in any case irrelevant in a legal sense to the substance of the matter. But at least they could potentially make everyone involved feel better in terms of ethical self-assessment.

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AllanKP69 said:
This is known as fair use and legal most everywhere, but when posting something even like that, at least the name of the book and author should be credited on the post.
Sooo, let's get back to the subject matter of this thread, making cannon :)
Allan
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Well let me say, I gave a clear statement how in Dutch the rules are. This law came from Germany. If you don't like it, not my problem. In my country it's no crime. That is the fun on this planet, so many countries so many different rules. And don't judge someone on your rules when he living in another country.

So yes Allan let us talk about cannons and what books come to the subject.

And Waldemar, still waiting on evidence from you about your statement why Schiffsgeschütze is not a good book to follow.
 
To all! Can we go back to the thread topic, please?

We are an international forum and understand that every country has its laws. However, please understand, that SOS will not be a place for posting links where members can download copyrighted material without the authors' consent.
 
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Steef66, I've already warned potential readers about this failed publication you're promoting, giving general reasons backed up by a few specific examples, and I'm not going to educate you in depth on the matter and no amount of pleading on your part will change that. You can use your copy as you see fit, that's your problem which I don't care. Lastly, you must finally learn that everyone has the right to make judgements regarding anything, anyone, anytime and whatever, and that you can only give orders and instructions to lead or plastic soldiers at most.

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-Waldemar- said:
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Steef66, I've already warned potential readers about this failed publication you're promoting, giving general reasons backed up by a few specific examples, and I'm not going to educate you in depth on the matter and no amount of pleading on your part will change that. You can use your copy as you see fit, that's your problem which I don't care. Lastly, you must finally learn that everyone has the right to make judgements regarding anything, anyone, anytime and whatever, and that you can only give orders and instructions to lead or plastic soldiers at most.

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@-Waldemar- To share, doesn't mean to promote. Here at SOS, we have a good habit of sharing information about ship modeling or scale modeling in general. You have voiced your opinion, but obviously, there is the opposite. Do we want to go again to find out who's right?

In my earlier post, I just stepped up and asked to stick to the thread... Please don't ignore my comments.
 
JerryTodd said:

Artilleryman:​

Measured drawings are difficult to find without going to the Archives in person, or proxy, and getting copies. Online is near impossible.
While accurate gun dimensions can be had from patent drawings and the like, Altered and Confederate made pieces seldom have even that.
Carriages, especially during the war were, often field-made to fit the gun to the ship and may appear like "standard" pieces, but are different enough to instill madness in a modeller.
Interestingly enough, the IX Dahlgren/Marsilly combo, and the XI Dahlgren/pivot carriage & slide are probably the most common of Union Naval armament during the war, with the most and best information available today - mostly extant samples to measure.
If all you want is a 3D model to print, both guns are available as STLs on my Thingiverse page.
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I got myself into a project modeling Naval guns at: Naval Guns 1854-1875 which may be of interest to you.
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Dear Mr. Todd
I visited your site , and saw your STL in Thiniverse, we appreciate the same things!
I place the 3D Autocad drawings, divided into parts and details, so that before converting in STL , those who want to modify something does not have major problems
I saw your STL of cannon Armstrong, the attached book speaks widely ; with reference to copywright posts, also this book is "free"
I wish you a good day
Carlo
 

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Franco,
Thanks for posting the photos, but can you please write what nation, year, caliber and anything else you know of including overall length about these guns?
Many thanks
Allan
 
Carlo,
Can you post the attachments in something other than DWG. There a lot of members that might like to see these that do not have a drawing program. Even DXF oar PDF would be helpful.

Thanks
Allan
 
AllanKP69 said:
Franco,
Thanks for posting the photos, but can you please write what nation, year, caliber and anything else you know of including overall length about these guns?
Many thanks
Allan
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FRONT COVER: Bronze, Spanish, “cañon largó” (long cannon). Cast in Manila, Philippines in 1749. Calibre: 14.2cm,
length: 2.80m, weight: 5,944 “libs”. (Toledo)
 
AllanKP69 said:
Carlo,
Can you post the attachments in something other than DWG. There a lot of members that might like to see these that do not have a drawing program. Even DXF oar PDF would be helpful.

Thanks
Allan
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Allan allan you are right
I had never seen or used DXF files , now I discovered that saving in DXF is very easy
 

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Just to add to the conversation...
My 1:10 scale model 110pr RBL Armstrong on wooden carriage and slide. Rifled.
Details of the build at johnsmachines.com (I was not a member of SOS then).
The barrel is mild steel. The wood is Victorian mountain ash, stained. Bronze bits for a bit of bling.

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I can't compare with that masterpiece, but thanks to material input by our friend Artilleryman, I returned detailing my Armstrong based mostly on this drawing and woking toward the reproduction on board Warrior.
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Your pics help me understand some of the mechanics of the piece; the elevation screw, and how that two-part spinning breech, with the pawn-shop balls, goes together ;) Thanks
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I'm working at my favorite 1:36 scale, but I hope the model will scale down to at least 1:96, so I have to simplify some details.
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I have not found any usable drawings of the carriages for the 110# OR the 68# smoothbores yet, I am still looking.
I think, in my case, I will have to eyeball it (estimate sized based on relationships to other parts, such as over-laying a grid based on the trunnion's diameter - which I do know.
You would happen to have images that nice of the 68# gun, would you? ;)
 
So, the above image says the 95cwt gun was 10 feet long, muzzle to breech. So I converted that to 1:36 scale and proceeded to resize my model to that. I had to reduce it by .999 percent, so I was pretty close already. ;)
 
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