Montanes 1:70 by OcCre

Robp1025 said:
The planks I got are 800mm which will not be able to fully span the longest stretches of the hull with curvature included.
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Normally you can not find long wood that span the whole ship. Woods are joined end to end in shipbuilding. You should sand the end of the planks like below picture and try to glue on bulkheads as possible as you can. Sanding the ends and gluing them in this way makes it easier both gluing and sanding.


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I always do like that. And here is the result

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Robp1025 said:
The planks I got are 800mm which will not be able to fully span the longest stretches of the hull with curvature included.
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1200mm. missing a zero. I am pretty sure if you go into the Occre homepage, you will find the length of planks. sorry for the missing zero-1m200 cm-1200 mm-el capi
When I made mine in mid-1980 I had in Madrid a huge store for anything nearly.
the store still exists -MODEL REYNA - BUT I DO NOT KNOW IF THEY SHIP OVERSEAS.
I nearly discharged all planks in my ship for the hull-SPECIALLY- and the decks. an extra price, but as no duty and other taxes were to add. I lived at that time in Madrid, and as far as I know-info from the shop - it was one of the 1Th Montañes on the market. it was in fact reserved for the owner-el capi
model reyna la tienda de modelismo-try to contact them
 
Yep I can see myself easily running out of materials if I was not careful which is why i posed this question before even starting LOL @dockattner

Funny you mentioned about the joinery @Bilal ZEYBEKOĞLU because that is the idea i was working with in my head for how to handle the situation currently so that kind of confirmed how ill be handling this. I just need to be precise with my cuts so slow and steady as always :D
 
El Capi said:
1200mm. missing a zero. I am pretty sure if you go into the Occre homepage, you will find the length of planks. sorry for the missing zero-1m200 cm-1200 mm-el capi
When I made mine in mid-1980 I had in Madrid a huge store for anything nearly.
the store still exists -MODEL REYNA - BUT I DO NOT KNOW IF THEY SHIP OVERSEAS.
I nearly discharged all planks in my ship for the hull-SPECIALLY- and the decks. an extra price, but as no duty and other taxes were to add. I lived at that time in Madrid, and as far as I know-info from the shop - it was one of the 1Th Montañes on the market. it was in fact reserved for the owner-el capi
model reyna la tienda de modelismo-try to contact them
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I will try to see if they do ship over seas because i feel like i need to be prepared. There is mistakes for sure and i cant just expect to be perfect at this out the gate like @dockattner right @Heinrich LOL
 
Robp1025 said:
Yep I can see myself easily running out of materials if I was not careful which is why i posed this question before even starting LOL @dockattner

Funny you mentioned about the joinery @Bilal ZEYBEKOĞLU because that is the idea i was working with in my head for how to handle the situation currently so that kind of confirmed how ill be handling this. I just need to be precise with my cuts so slow and steady as always :D
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Give some thought to moving the joints around so they don't all end up in an awkward looking line. Might even attempt a pattern but that will depend on your supply of material - patterns burn through strips faster than random.
 
dockattner said:
Give some thought to moving the joints around so they don't all end up in an awkward looking line. Might even attempt a pattern but that will depend on your supply of material - patterns burn through strips faster than random.
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I will see how things go with the planking I am not using nails but will be using treenails to secure the planking since this is a single planking. Because they don't provide any .5 mm planking....no hiding my mistakes so my attempt will be to have none!!! We can do this....I think
 
Robp1025 said:
I will see how things go with the planking I am not using nails but will be using treenails to secure the planking since this is a single planking. Because they don't provide any .5 mm planking....no hiding my mistakes so my attempt will be to have none!!! We can do this....I think
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No, you are not going to use trenails to secure the planking ROTF ROTF ROTF. You are going to use strong wood glue not only on the bulkheads (you can use CA here as well) but also along the edge of each strip where it joins the strip above (or below it). You can add trenails later as decoration if you want but they are not structural on a scale model.

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dockattner said:
No, you are not going to use trenails to secure the planking ROTF ROTF ROTF. You are going to use strong wood glue not only on the bulkheads (you can use CA here as well) but also along the edge of each strip where it joins the strip above (or below it). You can add trenails later as decoration if you want but they are not structural on a scale model.

See the attached primer...
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Ok I phrased my response wrong. I will be using strong glue and all to secure but usually I drill holes at each bulkhead and secure down with a toothpick to hold it in place while it dries. Then cut it and sand it down so if I use that way of securing I'll have to do the treenails.
 
Idk at that rate though I should just use nails and stop being stubborn and one sided
 
I didn't use nails. CA and wood glue and clamps - but I have seen nails used effectively. But do you want holes in your single planking?

Have you seen @Bilal ZEYBEKOĞLU build of the Montanes?

Montañes by Occre Build Log

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dockattner said:
I didn't use nails. CA and wood glue and clamps - but I have seen nails used effectively. But do you want holes in your single planking?

Have you seen @Bilal ZEYBEKOĞLU build of the Montanes?

Montañes by Occre Build Log

Hi everyone Last year I started the project Montañes. Montañes is one of OcCre's largest ship model kits. The vessel was a Spanish 74-gun, 3rd-rate Ship of the Line that saw action at Trafalgar. It is a 1/70 scale and measures 1250 mm overall lenght, 470 mm width and 895 mm height. I'm now...
shipsofscale.com
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I do not want holes that is for sure and I did see it but have not dissected it like I have the build on modelshipworld by Garward

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MONTANES by Garward - OcCre

So, we begin it (is continued ) since the beginning! It is difficult to restore, of course, a subject begun in April, 2009 and having at the time of accident more than 110 pages and more than 648000 viewings, but I will try. Certainly, it won't be the exact copy of the previous subject, but I wil...
modelshipworld.com modelshipworld.com
 
Robp1025 said:
I do not want holes that is for sure and I did see it but have not dissected it like I have the build on modelshipworld by Garward

modelshipworld.com

MONTANES by Garward - OcCre

So, we begin it (is continued ) since the beginning! It is difficult to restore, of course, a subject begun in April, 2009 and having at the time of accident more than 110 pages and more than 648000 viewings, but I will try. Certainly, it won't be the exact copy of the previous subject, but I wil...
modelshipworld.com modelshipworld.com
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A beautiful model!
 
So as I start my trip down planking road I really feel like I can do a much better job at saving on planks by not putting one plank down then cutting out the gun ports, I made two mock gun ports frames. I'll use these and plank the in between to have a tight and clean finish when I'm done. Well hoping for the finish as this is my first time trying this but with a single planking I feel like I want to try and reduce down the amount of issues I might have with inconsistency.
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Also ignore the gray because I tempted the idea of making a slate black shadowy kind of gunport back color but it failed so flat black it is
 
So we made some progress and man is this wood different then the wood I got with my beagle..... It's gonna be a beautiful ship but wow oh wow is it some hard wood. Holds in place real nice and I can do some nice tight work with it but it takes some getting use to. IMG_20220612_223421105.jpgIMG_20220612_223434717.jpg
That frame is a mock one that I am using for general shape, but I am feeling good about the progress I am making. I need to find a nice back drop to take pictures in front of like everyone else does ROTFROTF
 
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