MSW USS Constitution

I think i will also fill in the spaces between the bulheads instead of putting those flimsy little pieces to support the coamings and other things. They are way too fragile. Bad design model expo. sorry. I will need to leave a gap for the masts, though, which is ok.


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I just noted that you are using basswood for the decking. I don't think it's easy to stain basswood. I have seen people get pretty irregular penetration leaving a mottled appearance. I would be sure to create several test panels before committing to the finished deck. You might even benefit from the use of something called a pre-stain wood conditioner (sort of like a sanding sealer) - it evens out the penetration of stain and makes it more uniform in appearance.

You got this!
 
I just noted that you are using basswood for the decking. I don't think it's easy to stain basswood. I have seen people get pretty irregular penetration leaving a mottled appearance. I would be sure to create several test panels before committing to the finished deck. You might even benefit from the use of something called a pre-stain wood conditioner (sort of like a sanding sealer) - it evens out the penetration of stain and makes it more uniform in appearance.

You got this!
thank you for the feedback. Indeed I purchased some of that pretreatment conditioner. I found out yesterday evening about the basswood not easy to stain. I thought it was glue that was doing that but it isn't. Something about basswood makes staining it look like crap. I should have done my homework better, but I didn't think it was going to be a problem. oh well, lesson learned.
At some point I will make a decision about if I want to stain it or just varnish it. That I am used to doing.
 
Great. But don't give it a go just after reading instructions! I create a test panel every time I do something significant (staining, varnishing, nailing, trenailing, etc. etc. etc.). It's a rare day when my first test is used on the ship. You claim to be impatient - but little is gained when you have to tear out something you thought was completed. THAT is what tries my patience... :). I think you will rather enjoy the testing process - it gives you a chance to experiment and achieve what you are imagining it will look like.
 
Great. But don't give it a go just after reading instructions! I create a test panel every time I do something significant (staining, varnishing, nailing, trenailing, etc. etc. etc.). It's a rare day when my first test is used on the ship. You claim to be impatient - but little is gained when you have to tear out something you thought was completed. THAT is what tries my patience... :). I think you will rather enjoy the testing process - it gives you a chance to experiment and achieve what you are imagining it will look like.
good point. I am all for testing
 
Impatience. It’s a funny thing really. Everyone knows that it’s never, ever helpful to be in a hurry.

Sure, it’s good to be ‘on time’ but only if we achieve that through thoughtful planning and allow ourselves time to get there.

Hurrying, rushing, without thought is always bad. Yet we all have to fight against that panic inducing voice in our heads screaming, “Hurry up! Don’t be late! Don’t miss the deadline! Don’t get in trouble!”

That voice in my particular case is mostly my father’s - a driven man, but it seems to me that the entire 21st century is in a mad rush. It is hard to walk when everybody around you is sprinting.

This is certainly a good hobby for learning and practicing patience. It’s helping me slow down and simplify my retirement, but I have started my next project before finishing the current one so I clearly have some way to go yet. ROTF I suspect my secret unconscious agenda is to build all the models, read all the books and drink all the beer before I die!

Do you have your next model in mind already, Jack?
 
Impatience. It’s a funny thing really. Everyone knows that it’s never, ever helpful to be in a hurry.

Sure, it’s good to be ‘on time’ but only if we achieve that through thoughtful planning and allow ourselves time to get there.

Hurrying, rushing, without thought is always bad. Yet we all have to fight against that panic inducing voice in our heads screaming, “Hurry up! Don’t be late! Don’t miss the deadline! Don’t get in trouble!”

That voice in my particular case is mostly my father’s - a driven man, but it seems to me that the entire 21st century is in a mad rush. It is hard to walk when everybody around you is sprinting.

This is certainly a good hobby for learning and practicing patience. It’s helping me slow down and simplify my retirement, but I have started my next project before finishing the current one so I clearly have some way to go yet. ROTF I suspect my secret unconscious agenda is to build all the models, read all the books and drink all the beer before I die!

Do you have your next model in mind already, Jack?
I do indeed. It is POF HMS Enterprize, but thanks to Doc Kattner, I have seen the light. I will stick with the Constitution until it is finished, even though I would love to see it fly out of my livingroom window at Mach 2
 
I do indeed. It is POF HMS Enterprize, but thanks to Doc Kattner, I have seen the light. I will stick with the Constitution until it is finished, even though I would love to see it fly out of my livingroom window at Mach 2
I'll say this as gently and lovingly as I can...a builder would be wise to sort out the routine things of ship modeling before he/she engages with the exotic. My current POF project is exponentially harder than my previous POB project. That said, you have more experience building ships than I do so maybe that transition will be smoother for you...
 
I'll say this as gently and lovingly as I can...a builder would be wise to sort out the routine things of ship modeling before he/she engages with the exotic. My current POF project is exponentially harder than my previous POB project. That said, you have more experience building ships than I do so maybe that transition will be smoother for you...
i don't really allow that to limit what I will try to do. I like that feeling of "that is hard to do". I have already done a few POB models and I am bored of those. I picked the constitution because there is a lot of building and painting, for which I don't have a lot of experience. For the POF, I have purchased a couple of books on the subject and I will use those to guide me. The logs on this site will be helpful too.
Whatever the transition will be, that is fine.
I would like to note that removing the deck and putting in those supporting pieces only cost me 1 hour of time, so to me that is no big deal, really. Anyways that is my perception of the situation.
 
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thank you for the feedback. Indeed I purchased some of that pretreatment conditioner. I found out yesterday evening about the basswood not easy to stain. I thought it was glue that was doing that but it isn't. Something about basswood makes staining it look like crap. I should have done my homework better, but I didn't think it was going to be a problem. oh well, lesson learned.
At some point I will make a decision about if I want to stain it or just varnish it. That I am used to doing.
turns out it's the porosity of the basswood which makes it difficult to stain. Apparently it soaks up stain like crazy, which makes it difficult to get a uniform coverage. I'll try out that pretreatment conditioner to see if that helps. If the test pieces look like crap, then I'll just seal then varnish the deck.
 
Perhaps a bit late to post this but I wonder if you are using real basswood. There are several wood species that look similar. For example, Aspen, aka Poplar or “Popple” is a very fast growing tree common here in Northeastern Minnesota. It is clear cut for paper pulp and the cut area is ready to harvest again in about three years. Our local Menards big box home improvement store now stocks some Aspen lumber. It is light colored like basswood but softer and more porous. I also bought some basswood from a guy that seemed too soft. I suspect that it might be Cottonwood.

White pine lumberyard lumber might be a better choice.

The deck planking below is real basswood, sawn myself.

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that's a good question. I don't really know. The advertisement says it's basswood, but maybe they change the type of wood depending on availability. Whatever it is it doesn not stain well.
 
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I do not like Woodyworky’s basswood staining instructions for ship model building. They describe the scenario usually used to dress up easily worked cheap woods. Slather a coat of something on it, wipe it down and re-cover it with varnish. If you want a bowl to look like mahogany, make it from mahogany!

The photo below shows six different hatch panels weathered with different home made stains made as follows. Material is white pine ripped into 1/16” strips and laminated.

On a smooth surface mix a color from acrylic model paints. A palette knife works well for this. Transfer a blob to a small container (less is better than more). Thin with 90+ strength methyl alcohol to consistency of water. Mix until all paint is dissolved. Apply to a scrap to test. Add paint if necessary but maintain a transparent effect. Apply to your deck. Once dry, spray with Testor’s Dulcote.

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