Ouch! That’s a lot of redo. I’m about to start my mizzenmast yards tomorrow. I’d better check my lateen sail beforehand. Did any of the other builds mention this issue? How did their lateen yards look in comparison?
Vasa - 1:65 DeAgostini [COMPLETED BUILD]
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Oh no I fear you are leading the way I will be heading too but can I pick up any dropped coins
Remember a redo is always better than before.
"Opened a really good Pinot ." That seems a reasonable thing to do.
I agree with Heinrich, there needs to be a "Sympathy" button.
I'm wondering how many other Vasa builders have the same issue.
I agree with Heinrich, there needs to be a "Sympathy" button.
I'm wondering how many other Vasa builders have the same issue.
You got a picture?
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That sounds extremely frustrating. I hope things work out for you.
Hard lesson, Paul. When dealing with a new ship and and mixed design measurements from the kit to the museum specifications, you occasionally get this same situation; "one step forward, two steps back". You have to re-make some parts so they work. This is essentially a feature in scratch building as well as kit modifying. Corrections like this occasionally occur. If the ship is to be a successful model, all you can do is accept the problem and re-work the parts and move on. Problems like this are inevitable when the shape and measurements come from two sources. Endure this, and the model will get finished, and it will be GLORIOUS. A less persistent builder would have quit long ago. These are the things that set wooden model ship researchers and builders apart from your average kit builder.
Hi Paul,
Reading your post made me laughing out loud, not because of your sail and yard, I feel the pain when you can through it into the bin, but the way you put this on paper is just as remarkable as your model. Your blog reads like a novel.
Regarding the yard you can always put it midship as a stock item for the ship, there were always spare yards and mast parts onboard. It upgrades your model.
Reading your post made me laughing out loud, not because of your sail and yard, I feel the pain when you can through it into the bin, but the way you put this on paper is just as remarkable as your model. Your blog reads like a novel.
Regarding the yard you can always put it midship as a stock item for the ship, there were always spare yards and mast parts onboard. It upgrades your model.
Hi Paul,
I would say your course of action after discovering such a fault is spot on, some things are better left for another day, or you got to know when to walk away.
My condolences on your discovery.
Cheers,
Stephen.
Hey, Paul. I bet the robands and lateen sail looked tremendous, though. Could you give us a picture, please, of what you had? I'll be at the same point on my SR some time today.
Thanks, everyone, for your comforting words and for appreciating how frustrating this can be.
To respond to a few comments - yes, I can post a picture but it will be a bit. For the time being picture a yard that should only be 33-35 cm long built to 45 cm
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How did others solve this? I stopped following DeAgostini builds of the Vasa quite a long time ago because I'm no longer building the DeAgostini Vasa (no offence toward DeAg or those who choose to build the kit as provided). But I did go back this morning and looked to see what others did. Several just put the yard in too long (I won't share their pictures as I would not want to disrespect their choice - some of these are quite nice builds). Others seem to have corrected the problem albeit only in part. What is required is a rather aggressive shortening (if I am right to place the highest trust in the museum plans and the 1:10 version). The yard for the lateen sail should be shorter than the yard for the main course on the Vasa - mine was considerably longer.
And yes, the pinot was an efficient salve made better by the fact that my wife shared a glass with me. She doesn't take me as seriously as I take myself so she is a good counselor. Funniest thing she said: I think you were just compensating...
Putting the ship away was a good choice. I didn't really have a choice but to start over - but that feels better today than it did in the moment of discovery.
Onward!
To respond to a few comments - yes, I can post a picture but it will be a bit. For the time being picture a yard that should only be 33-35 cm long built to 45 cm
.How did others solve this? I stopped following DeAgostini builds of the Vasa quite a long time ago because I'm no longer building the DeAgostini Vasa (no offence toward DeAg or those who choose to build the kit as provided). But I did go back this morning and looked to see what others did. Several just put the yard in too long (I won't share their pictures as I would not want to disrespect their choice - some of these are quite nice builds). Others seem to have corrected the problem albeit only in part. What is required is a rather aggressive shortening (if I am right to place the highest trust in the museum plans and the 1:10 version). The yard for the lateen sail should be shorter than the yard for the main course on the Vasa - mine was considerably longer.
And yes, the pinot was an efficient salve made better by the fact that my wife shared a glass with me. She doesn't take me as seriously as I take myself so she is a good counselor. Funniest thing she said: I think you were just compensating...
Putting the ship away was a good choice. I didn't really have a choice but to start over - but that feels better today than it did in the moment of discovery.
Onward!
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I think someone with more experience would have caught this long ago. This yard was oddly long but I just assumed that was how it should be. You would have been laughing on the floor watching me trying to manipulate the yard/sail into place on my model. I played around with it for a full fifteen minutes before it even occurred to me that it was made wrong.
Do not sell yourself short Paul. (I think there is a pun in there somewhere)
You are doing an exceptional job on your build. Something we can all aspire too.
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Like Heinrich, I didn't want to use the "Like" button on your original thread. Think I used the "Wow" or "Oops" or "OMG" button, all somewhat synonymous to me. If this can happen to you Paul then it can happen to anyone. Your sharing this experience will help me personally in double and triple checking my numbers before I invest significant construction time, I HOPE!
Somehow, I see one or two of these types of posts in my future. I can only hope I handle them as well as you have. We shall see.
Somehow, I see one or two of these types of posts in my future. I can only hope I handle them as well as you have. We shall see.
Now you get a chance to do a little more sewing with you Mom.
Wow Paul, I sure hate it for you. Like everyone says, you just have to go and spend time in the redo locker.
Just how do you think they GOT that experience, hmmm? You forget that you are building a first class quality model worthy of display in a museum AS YOUR FIRST MODEL. Did you really expect to pull that off without setbacks? If you did, you should expect to be very disappointed. You are climbing Mount Everest without first knowing how to walk. Once you go through a few screwups and corrections, it won’t seem as bad because you learned that you are able to fix them. Your model work is exemplary even for an experienced builder, so impress yourself with the resilience to fix the problem. We are already super impressed with your build thus far…
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I asked Donnie once for more emojis for reacting to messages. I forgot what his answer was.
I'm in healthcare. We try to avoid mistakes, screwups, corrections, and setbacks
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