I thought you would wish me to breathe, first. BTW, they have a special ointment to treat glasses, so it doesn't fog.
Vasa - 1:65 DeAgostini [COMPLETED BUILD]
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Breathing is always nice! If you made the lenses magnified, it could be perfect!I thought you would wish me to breathe, first. BTW, they have a special ointment to treat glasses, so it doesn't fog.
Hello Friends,
I have mentioned in the past that I started out this project fully intending to build the ship according to the instructions. Well, as I got into it my goals shifted and I began to move more in the direction of seeing if I could come a bit closer to the real ship. I have always known that my bulwarks were not correct - but as I looked more closely at photos from the Vasamuseet I began to realize just how 'not correct' they were. While it was not possible to walk back all my mistakes I set about to correct what I could.
First step - take some parts off - ugh. Here is where we were a week ago:
And here is where we were one hour less than a week ago:
Here are two images from the mother ship. Notice, first, that the waterway is formed as a box of sorts. Also, notice that the frames extend above the hull of the ship and are capped by a handrail. On top of that is another (more delicate) handrail.
So, my first step was to build the box at the junction of the deck and bulwark.
Next, I relined the bulwarks:
Next (and this is technically incorrect), I wanted to hide the visible layers at the top edge of the hull planking so I added a cover of sorts. On the real ship there is a piece of trim along the upper edge of the hull - but on the exterior surface not on the top. My solution was to paint the edge of my cover (the cover that doesn't belong there on the model ship that shouldn't depict a layered hull in the first place) to simulate that trim piece.
I'm a bit thin here but I didn't like the thicker trim piece as it called too much attention to itself.
Finally, I added back in the frame tops and capped them off. This was harder than it should have been but I have macro discrepancies in the ship that are hard to deal with when adding micro details. I also would have been well-served by a mini-miter saw for this step.
Vasa experts know that I still don't have it right - but it is closer than it was a week ago. The more delicate handrail will be added as well.
Of course, this correction is the gift that keeps on giving because I now need to repeat these steps everywhere else. I'll see you in a month...
Thanks for stopping by! And thanks for inspiring me with your beautiful builds!
I have mentioned in the past that I started out this project fully intending to build the ship according to the instructions. Well, as I got into it my goals shifted and I began to move more in the direction of seeing if I could come a bit closer to the real ship. I have always known that my bulwarks were not correct - but as I looked more closely at photos from the Vasamuseet I began to realize just how 'not correct' they were. While it was not possible to walk back all my mistakes I set about to correct what I could.
First step - take some parts off - ugh. Here is where we were a week ago:
And here is where we were one hour less than a week ago:
Here are two images from the mother ship. Notice, first, that the waterway is formed as a box of sorts. Also, notice that the frames extend above the hull of the ship and are capped by a handrail. On top of that is another (more delicate) handrail.
So, my first step was to build the box at the junction of the deck and bulwark.
Next, I relined the bulwarks:
Next (and this is technically incorrect), I wanted to hide the visible layers at the top edge of the hull planking so I added a cover of sorts. On the real ship there is a piece of trim along the upper edge of the hull - but on the exterior surface not on the top. My solution was to paint the edge of my cover (the cover that doesn't belong there on the model ship that shouldn't depict a layered hull in the first place) to simulate that trim piece.
I'm a bit thin here but I didn't like the thicker trim piece as it called too much attention to itself.
Finally, I added back in the frame tops and capped them off. This was harder than it should have been but I have macro discrepancies in the ship that are hard to deal with when adding micro details. I also would have been well-served by a mini-miter saw for this step.
Vasa experts know that I still don't have it right - but it is closer than it was a week ago. The more delicate handrail will be added as well.
Of course, this correction is the gift that keeps on giving because I now need to repeat these steps everywhere else. I'll see you in a month...
Thanks for stopping by! And thanks for inspiring me with your beautiful builds!
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I think you made a great decision Paul. That is my ultimate intention when I get there. I'm wondering if I can hold the bulwark in its proper shape once I remove the rest of my bulkhead extensions. I've soaked and shaped once already and I plan on resoaking and wet warping before I glue them in place. We shall see.
Paul,
Always a pleasure going over your work - excellent decision to "fix" looks much better indeed. Your ship will be a beauty indeed.
After reading you notes it brought back memories of when I was working on the Corel version and, as you are doing, I also decided to fix issues after the work had already been done.
It reminded me of somewhere much below purgatory haha -- I will NOT hijack your log - but just in this instance here is one of the fixes that needed to be done working with the Corel kit - The stern was just made up by Corel - going forward, along with your updated point-of-view for this build you won't have any further issues. AND luckily you chose a very good kit... Nice work.....
Regards,
Always a pleasure going over your work - excellent decision to "fix" looks much better indeed. Your ship will be a beauty indeed.
After reading you notes it brought back memories of when I was working on the Corel version and, as you are doing, I also decided to fix issues after the work had already been done.
It reminded me of somewhere much below purgatory haha -- I will NOT hijack your log - but just in this instance here is one of the fixes that needed to be done working with the Corel kit - The stern was just made up by Corel - going forward, along with your updated point-of-view for this build you won't have any further issues. AND luckily you chose a very good kit... Nice work.....
Regards,
Every time a modeler made a decision to re-do, I tribute him\her. It is not an easy decision for sure, and some time can make it worse. But the idea of re-do very simple, something a modeler doesn't like in the model. This is what I call an Acceptance Level. Everyone has his\her own, IMHO.
I like your plan Daniel. If memory serves, Billings handles this detail the best of the various kits. The bulwark comes with teeth already cut in doesn't it? You have the option of adding false ribs on the inboard side like @PeterG did... His result in this area was fantastic.
Hey John, your willingness/courage/fanaticism on the redo is legendary in my book. If I recall correctly, doesn't your Vasa log (which you pick up already in progress) begin with a list of things that you are going to do over? Epic!
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Yes. But still painful. In my limited experience the redo is always a factor of 4 with regard to how much time it will take. In my case, the suspended rail was too noticeable of a feature to shrug off. We will see in the end how it looks and if it was really "worth it"...
THANX! The pictures are a classroom in construction. This is my first large vessel. Its the details which tells the story. As a retires I can spend as much time as I chose, subject to my handicapped son's limitations.
It is certainly worth it!!!!!
Paul,
Yes it did indeed. When I started it I knew almost nothing about the ship (so I purchased the Corel hahaha), nor ship modeling in general. Then became obsessed for learning, and about Vasa specifically - so in retrospect needed to make huge fixes.
As was mentioned in deference to Corel - when the kit came out it was early after the 1:1's resurrection - But Corel still after so many decades not improved or updated the accuracy of that product. Hmmm??
Here you can see the initial results of soaking and forming. These are plywood so they are difficult to bend.
Well, I can tell you that plywood and I are not friends... Best of luck!
First of all, I am impressed. My self has a complete kit Vasa from Edition Atlas, (same as DeAgostini ) since 2016, start building the hull after I get the first 100 pack. It was finished 2 years ago with first layer. After that I wait to sort out the painting, and still do. I think so far that golden paint will bee my choice. All tips by reading forums will take in later.This is my change on the deck 2nd layer.![100_5219[1].JPG](https://shipsofscale.com/sosforums/data/attachments/221/221003-aad1b8ad879a1fdee9a8f65750d2b577.jpg?hash=qtG4rYeaH9 "100_5219[1].JPG")
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Paul, remember - a redo does not mean that a mistake has been made. A less than satisfactory first attempt is simply part of the process of gaining experience. The bulwarks look much more realistic with the box that you have added.. Once the top box has been completed (at least on the Haarlem it was the case), it provides a certain "cohesion" to the bulwarks that makes it much more of an integrated part of the overall build.
Hi Paul I admire your courage to remove those parts and risk doing damage to the other parts is a credit to you. After seeing the end result I think it's well worth it.
I will do the same