Willem Barentsz by Kolderstok AD 1596

Pathfinder65 said:
More progress today between LLWS games.

Two coats of Tung oil on the hatches

@Heinrich, what to do about the deck, clear coat, oak or a lighter stain?

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Question #2, removing the bulkheads before the inner planking of that area. The build instructions indicate removing all of them, you used Piets method and left the last one. Pros/cons???

Jan
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Good morning Jan. This is looking mighty fine. Cheers Grant
 
Jan, I see now I have neglected to answer you about the treatment of the deck. On both ships, I have used absolutely nothing - they are like they came out of the box - Abachi on WB 1 and Pear wood on WB 2.
 
Heinrich said:
Jan, I see now I have neglected to answer you about the treatment of the deck. On both ships, I have used absolutely nothing - they are like they came out of the box - Abachi on WB 1 and Pear wood on WB 2.
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Great, I will also leave the decks the way they are. I like the “fresh” look.

Jan
 
Heinrich said:
Dear Frank, my friend,

If Jan allows me, I would like to answer your question if I may.

Please see the same phenomenon in my build.

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And from the top.

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The hull has two pronounced "cheeks" or hollows - these are areas that first bend inwards before bending outwards again. The first one that you will see at the bow (when I start planking that area) and the other one where you have indicated. Maybe that is what confused you.

On the ship of Barentsz these cheeks are still mild compared to those of the Geunieerde Provincien of 1603.

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These cheeks or hollows were typical of ships of that era. Jan has built a very good hull if he has achieved those cheeks.
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Wow, a great history lesson. Thank you for your input.

Jan
 
Heinrich said:
Dear Frank, my friend,

If Jan allows me, I would like to answer your question if I may.

Please see the same phenomenon in my build.

View attachment 391598

And from the top.

View attachment 391599

The hull has two pronounced "cheeks" or hollows - these are areas that first bend inwards before bending outwards again. The first one that you will see at the bow (when I start planking that area) and the other one where you have indicated. Maybe that is what confused you.

On the ship of Barentsz these cheeks are still mild compared to those of the Geunieerde Provincien of 1603.

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These cheeks or hollows were typical of ships of that era. Jan has built a very good hull if he has achieved those cheeks.
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Hello,

This is very interesting. May I ask for examples? But rather source ones, i.e. from the period, not modern models or interpretations. I would like to take a closer look into this phenomenon. Thanks.

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- Waldemar - said:
Hello,

This is very interesting. May I ask for examples? But rather source ones, i.e. from the period, not modern models or interpretations. I would like to take a closer look into this phenomenon. Thanks.

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Waldemar, the Geunieerde Provincien that I cited as example, is from the same period as the Willem Barentsz expedition ship, The expeditions took place from 1594-1597 and the Geunieerde Provincien was constructed in 1603. At most there could have been about about 20 years' difference between the ships. Other examples are difficult to find as there are almost no data available on ships of the late16th century.

For an extensive and I mean extensive research into the ship of Barentsz I refer you to my build log of the same ship.

HIGH HOPES, WILD MEN AND THE DEVIL’S JAW - Willem Barentsz Kolderstok 1:50

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Hello Jan. That looks fantastic. This part of the assembly I found a very satisfying exercise. You are right - with the double (inner planking of the bulwarks) and the beams added the little ship is immensely strong.
 
Heinrich said:
Hello Jan. That looks fantastic. This part of the assembly I found a very satisfying exercise. You are right - with the double (inner planking of the bulwarks) and the beams added the little ship is immensely strong.
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Thanks for the compliment.That is a bit of tricky assembly and very slow going.

dockattner said:
Looks great Jan. This beam canopy thingy looks really cool.
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That was a great exercise in patience. :rolleyes:
 
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