YQ Bluenose by Johan [COMPLETED BUILD]

Thanks a lot, Grant,
The starboard side wil at least partially left open. The only issue is that for all the deck equipment, like winches, hatches, etc, I want to have a level interface surface, which means I will add some planking, but not more than necessary.
Regards,
Johan
I noticed in the factory build photos (I think it was in that build) that some of the deck furniture and even maybe a deckhouse corner or two was left kind of hanging out there in thin air. That bothered me and I resolved to make at least some short planks where support would logically be needed. Short, but long enough to be at least terminated prototypically at the CL of a deck beam; don't want a deck plank "hanging out there in thin air".
 
I noticed in the factory build photos (I think it was in that build) that some of the deck furniture and even maybe a deckhouse corner or two was left kind of hanging out there in thin air. That bothered me and I resolved to make at least some short planks where support would logically be needed. Short, but long enough to be at least terminated prototypically at the CL of a deck beam; don't want a deck plank "hanging out there in thin air".
Unsupported corners are no-go's to me, that's one of the reasons I went for a scratch built deck.
 
Some more fwd deck work done today.
To my utter dismay I discovered that the 3mm wooden strips I ordered for the deck planking show a deviation in width of close to 12%. Minimum width I measured was 2,9mm, the maximum width 3,25mm. Since I was randomly selecting from the strips, this became an issue with the deck planking... :mad:
Now I have to be honest; my hull is not perfectly symmetrical, but while I was planking the deck I encountered some funny things. At one point I noticed I had to apply a little a little force to get the planks to sit properly against their neighbors. I found that rather strange, especially since at one point along the planking the phenomenon disappeared. But hey, one doesn't look a gift horse in the mouth, so I merrily continued. Today I was working on completing the planking of the fwd deck on the starboard side and that's when I noticed some slight differences in the the location of apertures for deck equipment and such in the planks, relative to the edges of the planks.
Once I started looking op into that I found that a) the hull is not perfectly symmetrical; not all provisions for the deck equipment and hatches are perfectly centered, not by much, but still and b) the differences in the width of the wooden strips, -0,1mm and +0,25mm . The deviations, in absolute value, are not large, but since they do accumulate, they became became a royal pain...
When thinking about desirable tolerances on one's build, I'm inclined to state that, depending on scale, say in the 1:48 to 1:86 range, a tolerance of +/-0,2mm would be preferable. That is an accuracy almost impossible to achieve by using handtools only. Maybe not for the extremely gifted among us, but I think, generally speaking, I can't build comfortably within a tolerance less than +/-0,5mm, on a good day.
A long time ago, while attending tech school, we were expected to file to this tolerance of plus/minus 0,2mm, plus rectangular, plus planar. I remember that as soon as the teachers left the workshop, there was a run on the machining equipment for a little tweaking. Trying to manually get within that tolerance range was a nightmare...
 
Some more fwd deck work done today.
To my utter dismay I discovered that the 3mm wooden strips I ordered for the deck planking show a deviation in width of close to 12%. Minimum width I measured was 2,9mm, the maximum width 3,25mm. Since I was randomly selecting from the strips, this became an issue with the deck planking... :mad:
Now I have to be honest; my hull is not perfectly symmetrical, but while I was planking the deck I encountered some funny things. At one point I noticed I had to apply a little a little force to get the planks to sit properly against their neighbors. I found that rather strange, especially since at one point along the planking the phenomenon disappeared. But hey, one doesn't look a gift horse in the mouth, so I merrily continued. Today I was working on completing the planking of the fwd deck on the starboard side and that's when I noticed some slight differences in the the location of apertures for deck equipment and such in the planks, relative to the edges of the planks.
Once I started looking op into that I found that a) the hull is not perfectly symmetrical; not all provisions for the deck equipment and hatches are perfectly centered, not by much, but still and b) the differences in the width of the wooden strips, -0,1mm and +0,25mm . The deviations, in absolute value, are not large, but since they do accumulate, they became became a royal pain...
When thinking about desirable tolerances on one's build, I'm inclined to state that, depending on scale, say in the 1:48 to 1:86 range, a tolerance of +/-0,2mm would be preferable. That is an accuracy almost impossible to achieve by using handtools only. Maybe not for the extremely gifted among us, but I think, generally speaking, I can't build comfortably within a tolerance less than +/-0,5mm, on a good day.
A long time ago, while attending tech school, we were expected to file to this tolerance of plus/minus 0,2mm, plus rectangular, plus planar. I remember that as soon as the teachers left the workshop, there was a run on the machining equipment for a little tweaking. Trying to manually get within that tolerance range was a nightmare...
I can understand this, Johan. For sure the deck planks must have the same width. 10 times 0,1 ……. Ouch!. And the nibbled side planks doesn't like that either. Unless you nibble that plank by plank. Perhaps it’s now to late, but come along for a cup of coffee in Woerkum and we saw all you planks to the same width.
Regards, Peter
 
I can understand this, Johan. For sure the deck planks must have the same width. 10 times 0,1 ……. Ouch!. And the nibbled side planks doesn't like that either. Unless you nibble that plank by plank. Perhaps it’s now to late, but come along for a cup of coffee in Woerkum and we saw all you planks to the same width.
Regards, Peter
Ah, a cup of coffee, that sounds nice and thanks for your offer. Before taking you up on it, I will check my stock first and sort the strips on width. Based on what I have I will come up with a plan.
The fwd deck now looks like this (the frame for the fwd fishhold hatches is dry-fitted):

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Another annoying property of the wood strips is that they very easily splinter at the edges. (Often only discovered once the adhesive has dried and after a first sanding...)
On the starboard side I applied a shortened nibbling plank, after a remark made by Grant (@GrantTyler) about maintaining the open hull structure. It led to the decision to keep the starboard side as open as possible.
The deck is far from perfect, but to me it looks way better and definitely more authentic than the preprinted sheets from the kit.
 
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The deck looks fabulous Johan! The best of luck tomorrow - I hope you guys have a wonderful day. Say hello to Jan Zwart (the organiser), Hans (Kolderstok), Mees Ippel (Statenjacht) and Piet Sanders (HMS Beagle) for me please!
 
The deck looks fabulous Johan! The best of luck tomorrow - I hope you guys have a wonderful day. Say hello to Jan Zwart (the organiser), Hans (Kolderstok), Mees Ippel (Statenjacht) and Piet Sanders (HMS Beagle) for me please!
Thanks so much Heinrich, as I said I t wasn't as easy as I thought it would be.
Looking forward to tomorrow. First picking up Henk and then up to Duizel.
Will definitely not forget to say hello to the guys!
I hope we wo 't forget to take some pictures....
 
Thanks so much Heinrich, as I said I t wasn't as easy as I thought it would be.
Looking forward to tomorrow. First picking up Henk and then up to Duizel.
Will definitely not forget to say hello to the guys!
I hope we wo 't forget to take some pictures....
Thank you so much, Johan!
 
Ah, a cup of coffee, that sounds nice and thanks for your offer. Before taking you up on it, I will check my stock first and sort the strips on width. Based on what I have I will come up with a plan.
The fwd deck now looks like this (the frame for the fwd fishhold hatches is dry-fitted):

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Another annoying property of the wood strips is that they very easily splinter at the edges. (Often only discovered once the adhesive has dried and after a first sanding...)
On the starboard side I applied a shortened nibbling plank, after a remark made by Grant (@GrantTyler) about maintaining the open hull structure. It led to the decision to keep the starboard side as open as possible.
The deck is far from perfect, but to me it looks way better and definitely more authentic than the preprinted sheets from the kit.
Good afternoon Johan. Another challenge successfully met. Who would have thought the deck planks had such variances in width. Your fire deck so far is looking stunning despite these challenges. I think the open SB is already creating a vivid impact. Cheers Grant
 
Good afternoon Johan. Another challenge successfully met. Who would have thought the deck planks had such variances in width. Your fire deck so far is looking stunning despite these challenges. I think the open SB is already creating a vivid impact. Cheers Grant
Thanks for your compliments, Grant. In all, I find this a challenging build and I don't even have the complex masts, yards, gaffs and standing and running rigging you have to deal with.
It's part of the beauty of this kit, at least to me it is. One can clearly see the development towards more streamlined hulls, gaff- instead off square rigged and optimized standing and running rigging.
I don't think I'll dare to take on a build like yours, what a monster build!
 
Nice progress Johan, deck is looking good. And remember, once all the deck furnishings go on, most of those little things that bother you about the deck will go unnoticed… due to all the eye candy on deck. ;)
I hope your admiral has a speedy recovery!
 
Nice progress Johan, deck is looking good. And remember, once all the deck furnishings go on, most of those little things that bother you about the deck will go unnoticed… due to all the eye candy on deck. ;)
I hope your admiral has a speedy recovery!
Thanks Dean!
The Admiral is doing okay, she came out of quarantaine since this morning; no symptoms whatsoever. Stil, she's extreme tired.
As far as the deck goes, I already mentioned that the pre-printed deck plates are not goed enough, at least they didn't fit the locations for the hatches, aft cabin, holes for the fwd deck equipment, at least when I centered the deck parts with the mast locations.
 
Thanks Dean!
The Admiral is doing okay, she came out of quarantaine since this morning; no symptoms whatsoever. Stil, she's extreme tired.
As far as the deck goes, I already mentioned that the pre-printed deck plates are not goed enough, at least they didn't fit the locations for the hatches, aft cabin, holes for the fwd deck equipment, at least when I centered the deck parts with the mast locations.
I was referring to the deck you are installing with individual boards. Anything you are unhappy with, will most likely go unnoticed once you install all of the deck furnishings. ;)
Glad to hear the admiral is doing better!
 
I was referring to the deck you are installing with individual boards. Anything you are unhappy with, will most likely go unnoticed once you install all of the deck furnishings. ;)
Well, I really hope you're right.
 
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