YQ Bluenose by Johan [COMPLETED BUILD]

RDN1954 said:
I am now entering the stage where I need to start stopping the blocks. Having seen quite a few examples of modelers producing believable stropped blocks, I wanted to give it a try as well.

Below three tests with some old blocks I still had lying around. Not easy to get a satisfactory result.
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The main gaff requires the installation of a few stropped block, so I decided to start manufacturing the blocks for the main gaff. The results were discouraging.
The two pictures below are from the same three blocks, the lower block being slightly different, I repositioned mentioned block to clearly show it's looks.

The top block shows the iron wire strop. This material requires an awfull lot of patience and manipulating the block and strop simultaneously is a real pain.
The mid block is stropped with 0,6mm rope; way too thick and clumsy looking.
The lower strop is made from 0,3mm rope; more convincing, compact, but also more "fuzzy" than the iron wire.
The rope strops are rather easy to fabricate and a drop of CA helps tremendously to maintain the shape of the strop. I'm afraid I'll need a couple of days to decide upon my next step w.r.t the stropping...

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Those block’s are so tiny, those fingers are so big, the wire is so unwilling, the tools are mostly so of position ……. It’s hard to manage all to a satisfying result. But you will succeed, Johan. You will!
Regards, Peter
 
dockattner said:
Have you annealed (softened) the wire? That should make it easier to work with...
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I'm not sure. In itself the wire is rather easily to form, but forming it around a 3mm block, or 5mm for that matter, is a nightmare. As Peter (@Peter Voogt ) mentioned; too big fingers, too small blocks, tools hard to keep in position... I also tried copper, slightly larger in diameter and stiffer, thus harder to form around those blocks.
It will be a very shallow learning curve. Will report back early next year or so.
 
A bit earlier than next year...
Ran a small batch of 5mm blocks. As yet I can't convince myself of the esthetics; functional, yes, but esthetically so wrong:

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Still considering using rope instead... To be continued.
 
RDN1954 said:
A bit earlier than next year...
Ran a small batch of 5mm blocks. As yet I can't convince myself of the esthetics; functional, yes, but esthetically so wrong:

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Still considering using rope instead... To be continued.
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Good morning Johan. Have you checked out HisModels? He has pre-made strops for blocks in black or brass. They really look good. If it didn’t take a year to get to me I would buy some? Cheers Grant
 
GrantTyler said:
Good morning Johan. Have you checked out HisModels? He has pre-made strops for blocks in black or brass. They really look good. If it didn’t take a year to get to me I would buy some? Cheers Grant
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Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out.
 
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GrantTyler said:
Good morning Johan. Have you checked out HisModels? He has pre-made strops for blocks in black or brass. They really look good. If it didn’t take a year to get to me I would buy some? Cheers Grant
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Ordered a few pre-made strops for trials. If successful, the rest of the blocks will follow suit.
Delivey time is about four working days, so that's not too bad.
I guess anything getting shipped to SA goes by canoe, hence the year lead time...ROTF
Transport to the Netherlands: they chuck it into the Danube and fish the package out of the Rhine, once near.
 
RDN1954 said:
Ordered a few pre-made strops for trials. If successful, the rest of the blocks will follow suit.
Delivey time is about four working days, so that's not too bad.
I guess anything getting shipped to SA goes by canoe, hence the year lead time...ROTF
Transport to the Netherlands: they chuck it into the Danube and fish the package out of the Rhine, once near.
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Good afternoon Johan. That is such a wonderful description of the truth. . Let me know how they go because if good I may just order a whole pile and wait….and wait . Cheers Grant
 
While waiting for the first (experimental) set of strops from His Models (the shipment is underway, delivery pending the Danube flow towards the Rhine), I had some time considering the build sequence. Initially, as I mentioned a few posts back, I wanted to do some of the running rigging and sail installation, before installing the shrouds and stays. Evaluating this sequence, I had to adjust my ideas for the following reason: installing the stays and shrouds first gives a rigged and steady base to start the running riggin and the sail-install. Postponing the standing rigging to a later stage of the build may very well cause the masts to be misaligned. A second reason is the accessibility of the shrouds at the tresseltrees. The more running rigging is installed, the more the accessibility to the shrouds is obscured. My fingers being the size they are, that's not something I'm looking forward to.
So I found myself starting the installation of stays and shrouds. Right now I have three stays in place; two stays between fore- and main mast and one stay from the bowsprit to the top of the lower fore mast. In order to be able to install the stays between the fore- and main masts had to install the top mast shrouds, at least at the top of both top masts. (Still following?) According to the Model Shipways drawings, the stays between the masts are positioned on top of the top mast shrouds.
For the top mast shrouds I used the "swifter" method, as described and used by @Peter Voogt .

Stay from bowsprit to top lower fore mast:
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Two of the three (top) mast stays in place:
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Detail of the main top mast, with the topmast shrouds in place; the shroud, running from the top of the npmast to the railing is not yet tensioner. The swifter configuration is hardly discernable, too bad it was quite a tedious job:
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RDN1954 said:
While waiting for the first (experimental) set of strops from His Models (the shipment is underway, delivery pending the Danube flow towards the Rhine), I had some time considering the build sequence. Initially, as I mentioned a few posts back, I wanted to do some of the running rigging and sail installation, before installing the shrouds and stays. Evaluating this sequence, I had to adjust my ideas for the following reason: installing the stays and shrouds first gives a rigged and steady base to start the running riggin and the sail-install. Postponing the standing rigging to a later stage of the build may very well cause the masts to be misaligned. A second reason is the accessibility of the shrouds at the tresseltrees. The more running rigging is installed, the more the accessibility to the shrouds is obscured. My fingers being the size they are, that's not something I'm looking forward to.
So I found myself starting the installation of stays and shrouds. Right now I have three stays in place; two stays between fore- and main mast and one stay from the bowsprit to the top of the lower fore mast. In order to be able to install the stays between the fore- and main masts had to install the top mast shrouds, at least at the top of both top masts. (Still following?) According to the Model Shipways drawings, the stays between the masts are positioned on top of the top mast shrouds.
For the top mast shrouds I used the "swifter" method, as described and used by @Peter Voogt .

Stay from bowsprit to top lower fore mast:
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Two of the three (top) mast stays in place:
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Detail of the main top mast, with the topmast shrouds in place; the shroud, running from the top of the npmast to the railing is not yet tensioner. The swifter configuration is hardly discernable, too bad it was quite a tedious job:
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The delicate rigging has started! Nice job, Johan. Good to see you have chosen a sequence that fits to you. Every one has it’s pros and cons.
Regards, Peter
 
Henk Liebre said:
Certainly nice work Johan



I don't understand that yet, but we'll save it for later:rolleyes:
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For sure it's a work of love, otherwise one wouldn't last a day with this build (and many, many others like this...)

I'll try and explain: first I thought to apply the running rigging and most of the sails before installing the stays and the shrouds. That way the shrouds and stays are not in your way when installing the running rigging and (optionally) the sails. It's what I encountered with the rebuild of my other Bluenose.
But... Not installing the shrouds and stays means that the masts are solely depending on the holes in the decks and the mastfeet in the keel for proper and robust alignment and positioning (angles, relative to the decks...) of the masts. Minute deviations of these alignment features result in larger deviations higher up the masts. The only features you have, controlling just that, are the stays and the shrouds. So my idea not first installing the shrouds, etc, has the disadvantage of poor mast alignment and masts still being able to move about a little, especially when one tightens the running rigging left and right.

Summarizing, postponing shrouds- and stays installation gives better acces for sails and running rigging (pro), but does not provide a stable and robust mast orientation (con).
On the other hand, starting with the shrouds- and stays installation gives a positive and robust mast orientation (pro), but limits accessibility during sail- and running rigging installation (con).
I went with prioritozing a properly trimmed mast installation, accepting the limited access later on.
When we meet face-to-face again, we'll discuss this in more detail.
 
RDN1954 said:
:DWhile waiting for the first (experimental) set of strops from His Models (the shipment is underway, delivery pending the Danube flow towards the Rhine), I had some time considering the build sequence. Initially, as I mentioned a few posts back, I wanted to do some of the running rigging and sail installation, before installing the shrouds and stays. Evaluating this sequence, I had to adjust my ideas for the following reason: installing the stays and shrouds first gives a rigged and steady base to start the running riggin and the sail-install. Postponing the standing rigging to a later stage of the build may very well cause the masts to be misaligned. A second reason is the accessibility of the shrouds at the tresseltrees. The more running rigging is installed, the more the accessibility to the shrouds is obscured. My fingers being the size they are, that's not something I'm looking forward to.
So I found myself starting the installation of stays and shrouds. Right now I have three stays in place; two stays between fore- and main mast and one stay from the bowsprit to the top of the lower fore mast. In order to be able to install the stays between the fore- and main masts had to install the top mast shrouds, at least at the top of both top masts. (Still following?) According to the Model Shipways drawings, the stays between the masts are positioned on top of the top mast shrouds.
For the top mast shrouds I used the "swifter" method, as described and used by @Peter Voogt .

Stay from bowsprit to top lower fore mast:
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Two of the three (top) mast stays in place:
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Detail of the main top mast, with the topmast shrouds in place; the shroud, running from the top of the npmast to the railing is not yet tensioner. The swifter configuration is hardly discernable, too bad it was quite a tedious job:
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Good morning Johan. Looking very good. ….and now the fun starts…:D. I think each ship has an optimum rigging sequence and finding that just means we have less in our swear jar. You have clearly spent time planning so you have got this. I also went standing rigging first on my Victory and my swear jar was filled many times with the fiddly running rigging. I still feel it was the correct call though. Have fun as each line you add the ship starts to look soooo awesome. Cheers Grant
 
Today I was able to complete the installation of the three jib stays.
Sounds easy enough, but in order to be able to install the jumbo jib stay, I had to first install the fore mast shrouds, since the jumbo jib stay bridle sits on top of the shrouds.

Detail of the jumbo jib stay with the bridle installation. The bridle runs around the lower foremast and the top foremast and is joined bij a shackle in front of the foremast. In this case a simple ring was used. The jumbo jib stay is then attached to the bridle:
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Detail of the lower jumbo jib stay attachment:
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Detail of the jib- and outer jib stay attachment to the bowsprit. Clean-up and touch-up still required, but that's for later. The very dark blue became a lot lighter, due to using a flashlight;
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