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HMS Vanguard 1787 1:72 a Victory Models kit

Rigging continues. As more of the running rigging gets installed it gets progressively more difficult to access the new lines and attach them to belaying points. I now know why the lowest yard on the mizzen is called a cross jack, the brace lines cross over beneath the stay. I have tried to show this in the photos, but its hard to see what’s going where.

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I have completed the Clues, sheets and Tack rigging which are on Tavola 10. One thing I learnt and would recommend to those who are following is that some of the blocks on the yards are rigged with 0.75mm thread through a 3mm block, and the hole in the block would benefit from predrilling before mounting on the yards.
There are a number of Toggle points which were done using the method suggested by the instructions, to stiffen some thread 0.75mm natural with CA glue, which i did with a clamp hanging off it to get it perfectly straight.

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I am now on Tavola 11 and have started the Braces, with only Bowlines left to do after that.
The other handy hint for future efforts is be very careful moving around the boom, I have brushed against it and ruptured the blocks off three times now. Also installed the rudder chains.

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Thanks for visiting.

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Good afternoon. I love it. Looks so impressive with all the rigging. Cheers Grant
 
Good afternoon. I love it. Looks so impressive with all the rigging. Cheers Grant
Thank you Grant for your continued interest and feedback on my Vanguard.
I'm with Grant. The effort and outcome with the rigging is just so impressive.
Thank you Paul for your thoughts. I know you are between builds and hoping my Vanguard stimulates your next project with lots of rigging. I would like to see that.
 
Rigging is complete. I have decided not to install sails.

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I have competed the anchors and all that remains is the flag.

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I have a display case ready to assemble and plan to mount with three brass pedestals 29mm.
I will post completed photos once it’s secured in the display case. This may take a while to get right.

Most people who are not modelers who see the ship ask how long did it take to build. I don’t log hours spent but it has taken about 33 months so far.

How many hours did it take for others to build an advanced kit like Victory or Vanguard?

As always thanks for visiting my build log.
 
Truly a masterpiece! This is one to be proud of! Good choice (in my humble opinion) on foregoing the sails. I have seen very few models with sails that really look good, with the exception of furled sails, which I think, when done well, look fantastic.

Well done!
 
Grand looking ship you have completed, looks like some rough seas in the shop spilled some coffee on the work platform, but didn't get the ship.

I agree with no sails, if anyone asks, you can say it's in port and sails were removed for maintenance and storage, just like the real ones.
 
Truly a masterpiece! This is one to be proud of! Good choice (in my humble opinion) on foregoing the sails. I have seen very few models with sails that really look good, with the exception of furled sails, which I think, when done well, look fantastic.

Well done!
Thank you for your kind remarks Russ. One more vote for no sails.

Grand looking ship you have completed, looks like some rough seas in the shop spilled some coffee on the work platform, but didn't get the ship.

I agree with no sails, if anyone asks, you can say it's in port and sails were removed for maintenance and storage, just like the real ones.
Thank you Kurt for your kind words and interest. Your vote seals the decision beyond doubt. No sails.

Fantastic! As I've said before you found your gift when it comes to rigging. A beautiful result!
Thank you Paul. You are too kind, but I trust your opinion so I accept your assessment with a humble smile.

Absolutely Spectacular! I agree with not installing sails. The rigging adds to a stunningly beautiful Model!
Thank you Andre. Another vote for no sails. I look forward to seeing your progress photos soon.
 
That's a beautiful case! But, as you have noted, those three tiny pedestals won't do the trick. Is the keel just sitting in them? Or is something screwed from below into the ship?

Regardless, it just visually looks 'top-heavy' so that even if the pedestals were strong enough to hold and protect the ship they still look out of balance relative to the massive structure they are supporting.

For what it's worth, I used a cradle for my Vasa:

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I'm not saying you need to do that - just showing what one would look like. It would be tricky to make something like I did at this point because you would have to try to make a pattern without laying the ship on its side or tipping it over (disaster in the making).

Maybe take a run through the finished models showcase for inspiration: https://shipsofscale.com/sosforums/pages/CONTRIBUTORS-GALLERY-01/

As you are perusing keep in mind that most of those ships on pedestals planned for it from the very beginning of construction. They actually have nuts integrated into the keel or keelson. I failed to do that on the Vasa, so I chose to go with a cradle...
 
Hey Chestcutter,

Really well realised and so beautifully built. I think a ship like this is an absolute eye-catcher, and I think everyone who sees this ship really wants to look at it and, as bad as it is, touch it, because it's been done so well.

It's marvellous. Now just build a beautiful stand and you've got one hell of a model.

Best regards

Günther Ship-1
 
Hey Chestcutter,

Really well realised and so beautifully built. I think a ship like this is an absolute eye-catcher, and I think everyone who sees this ship really wants to look at it and, as bad as it is, touch it, because it's been done so well.

It's marvellous. Now just build a beautiful stand and you've got one hell of a model.

Best regards

Günther Ship-1
Thanks Günther.
 
That's a beautiful case! But, as you have noted, those three tiny pedestals won't do the trick. Is the keel just sitting in them? Or is something screwed from below into the ship?

Regardless, it just visually looks 'top-heavy' so that even if the pedestals were strong enough to hold and protect the ship they still look out of balance relative to the massive structure they are supporting.

For what it's worth, I used a cradle for my Vasa:

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I'm not saying you need to do that - just showing what one would look like. It would be tricky to make something like I did at this point because you would have to try to make a pattern without laying the ship on its side or tipping it over (disaster in the making).

Maybe take a run through the finished models showcase for inspiration: https://shipsofscale.com/sosforums/pages/CONTRIBUTORS-GALLERY-01/

As you are perusing keep in mind that most of those ships on pedestals planned for it from the very beginning of construction. They actually have nuts integrated into the keel or keelson. I failed to do that on the Vasa, so I chose to go with a cradle...
Thanks for your thoughts Paul.
Actually I did pre-plan this fixation from the beginning and reinforced the keel in the three areas where the pedestals sit.
There are three 60mm wood screws going up from beneath the case into the re-inforced keel.

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But alas, you are right the mass of the hull does make it tilt and the pedestals only have a limited area of contact.

I will create some sort of cradling too but i need it to look attractive. Back to the shipyard.
 
I recently found this build and I agree with all that you did a fantastic job on a massive scale. One suggestion I would think would work well in this size of a case ( especially with no sails and the green base board) is using a dry dock slip. See example below. A little more work but would benefit and support that massive hull.1751348775311.png
 
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