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No - not me - Brad. And I meant that in the most loving of ways.Sorry Russ, I wish I had seen your pics earlier, and I hope you are not too mad at me........
Allan
Bonhomme Richard - Pear Cross section kit (with scratch duplicate using alder) Unicorn Model
Brad is modeling the return trip. The iron ingots were offloaded to be used for forging and new cargo in barrels has been loaded for the trip back home. They underestimated the weight, so they threw in a few of the local rocks to make the ship more stable...
Hi Paul,
Is that a true story? Very interesting if it is.
From what I have been able to find about kentledge, which is pig iron, it cannot be forged, only cast. But, it is very hard and brittle so could not be used to cast firearms. That being the case, I cannot think of anything on the ships of that era that had castings that would be OK if made from the kentledge.
Allan
Alan,
Thanks for the info! Not so much on your timing, HA
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The team that found her, estimated: "the ballast consisted of 40 tons each of pig iron bars, stone, gravel and French shot."
I believe the iron ingots would be deepest in the hold, along the keel. The looser/smaller stone/gravel/shot would then cover this "permanent and heavy" layer, providing a somewhat more flexible layer for barrels and cargo to nest in.
I've never seen any BHR models (including a museum quality scratch build on the NRG forum) show the ingots but to be totally accurate, they should.
My goal in the build is to make a reasonably accurate "battle-mate" to go beside my scratch build of HMS Serapis. Secondary goal is to get friends and family to ask questions. To that end, I included some ballast, placed tools at the cannon stations, rigged the cannons three different ways, and plan to set her on a "building/launching" ways.
I appreciate your feedback and insight!
Brad
Thanks for the info! Not so much on your timing, HA
!The team that found her, estimated: "the ballast consisted of 40 tons each of pig iron bars, stone, gravel and French shot."
I believe the iron ingots would be deepest in the hold, along the keel. The looser/smaller stone/gravel/shot would then cover this "permanent and heavy" layer, providing a somewhat more flexible layer for barrels and cargo to nest in.
I've never seen any BHR models (including a museum quality scratch build on the NRG forum) show the ingots but to be totally accurate, they should.
My goal in the build is to make a reasonably accurate "battle-mate" to go beside my scratch build of HMS Serapis. Secondary goal is to get friends and family to ask questions. To that end, I included some ballast, placed tools at the cannon stations, rigged the cannons three different ways, and plan to set her on a "building/launching" ways.
I appreciate your feedback and insight!
Brad
Hi Brad. Gravel or iron ballast , your cross section is brilliant. Way to go. Cheers Grant
Thank you Grant. Appreciate your feedback!
Unfortunately, the mobile shipyard is currently at all stop. Waiting for more barrel kits from Ali Express. I also underestimated the amount of lumber needed to make the launching ways, so waiting for Son-in-Law to bring a resupply.
In the meantime, workers are relaxing and enjoying the Spring Skiing in Colorado!
Hi Brad. What a pleasure. Maybe “when I am big” I can sell the business and follow your example. Looks awesome. Cheers Grant
Small project, as the shipyard is awaiting barrel parts.
Workers fashioned two custom cleats for the main mast, as none were included in the kit.
The other major shipyard delay. A visit by grandchildren, to the mobile shipyard in Breckenridge.
Sledding, hiking in the fresh snow, and magic carpet ski lessons have happily halted shipyard work for foreseeable future!!
"Indian" encounter on the hike today awed the grandson!
Workers fashioned two custom cleats for the main mast, as none were included in the kit.
The other major shipyard delay. A visit by grandchildren, to the mobile shipyard in Breckenridge.
Sledding, hiking in the fresh snow, and magic carpet ski lessons have happily halted shipyard work for foreseeable future!!
"Indian" encounter on the hike today awed the grandson!
Kurt Konrath
Kurt Konrath
Another tip to any sailor planning to add gravel ballast.
When you have it in final place, soak with Isopropyl Alcohol to "wet" all the ballast, if not done, the glue may only attach to the top of pile and not soak down thru, this leaves a thin crust on top of ballast and if bumped, the loose gravel underneath can come loose.
This happened to me several times while trying to lay and glue ballast on sides of my model railroad trackwork. I finally learned the lesson the hard way.
Much easier to do right the first time then have to clean up and re-due the project.
When you have it in final place, soak with Isopropyl Alcohol to "wet" all the ballast, if not done, the glue may only attach to the top of pile and not soak down thru, this leaves a thin crust on top of ballast and if bumped, the loose gravel underneath can come loose.
This happened to me several times while trying to lay and glue ballast on sides of my model railroad trackwork. I finally learned the lesson the hard way.
Much easier to do right the first time then have to clean up and re-due the project.
Kurt,
I used a slightly different method. 50/50 wood glue/water in a small cup. Then I added the ballast and stirred it well, so all the stones were soaked with glue. The consistency was like thick, crunchy, oatmeal.
I spooned and shoved this mix into the bottom of the hold, then laid the barrels and crates on top, while it was wet. It sat overnight and all seems very sturdy and well glued together.
Sorry I don't have any photos of the process.
Kurt Konrath
Kurt Konrath
Well your process would work as well, getting them wet before putting them in the hold.
Finally, the medium barrels from AliExpress arrived at the campground.
B U T . . . Shipyard progress was delayed by several days of fresh Breckenridge powder. Photo1.
Today, the ski legs needed a break, so Brutis assembled, then stained 12 medium and 10 small barrels.
B U T . . . In photo 2, Ens Newbie had to tell the shipyard Superintendent that he forgot the black banding material, so cooperage work is again....ALL STOP.
Friday, mobile shipyard will move from 9,500ft to the basement at 5300ft, where work should begin again.
B U T . . . Shipyard progress was delayed by several days of fresh Breckenridge powder. Photo1.
Today, the ski legs needed a break, so Brutis assembled, then stained 12 medium and 10 small barrels.
B U T . . . In photo 2, Ens Newbie had to tell the shipyard Superintendent that he forgot the black banding material, so cooperage work is again....ALL STOP.
Friday, mobile shipyard will move from 9,500ft to the basement at 5300ft, where work should begin again.
A lot of fun there up on the mountains, Brad.Finally, the medium barrels from AliExpress arrived at the campground.
B U T . . . Shipyard progress was delayed by several days of fresh Breckenridge powder. Photo1.
Today, the ski legs needed a break, so Brutis assembled, then stained 12 medium and 10 small barrels.
B U T . . . In photo 2, Ens Newbie had to tell the shipyard Superintendent that he forgot the black banding material, so cooperage work is again....ALL STOP.
Friday, mobile shipyard will move from 9,500ft to the basement at 5300ft, where work should begin again.
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Regards, Peter
Petty Officer Brutis decided to build two tables for the Cook.
He placed the first by the bread side of the oven and the other by the roasting hearth.
He placed the first by the bread side of the oven and the other by the roasting hearth.
Ski vacation is over, and the Shipyard moved back to the basement.
Barrels were finally banded. Petty Officer Brutis then loaded them, with lumber for the ships carpenter, used as bracing.
Shipyard is waiting for a 5-sided case that was recently ordered. A nice piece of red oak was selected to make the display base.
Ensign Newbie used Carlos's excellent plans for the launching way (see link). He cut and laid out the dunnage and it looks great.
Now we wait for the postman to bring the plexiglass case and the final steps can be completed.
Barrels were finally banded. Petty Officer Brutis then loaded them, with lumber for the ships carpenter, used as bracing.
Shipyard is waiting for a 5-sided case that was recently ordered. A nice piece of red oak was selected to make the display base.
Ensign Newbie used Carlos's excellent plans for the launching way (see link). He cut and laid out the dunnage and it looks great.
Now we wait for the postman to bring the plexiglass case and the final steps can be completed.
Is that a box of marshmallows ?
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Is that a box of marshmallows
Nah - the scale's off - toilet paper maybe? Did they have TP back then - probably not. Ok, I go with marshmallows.
Kurt Konrath
Kurt Konrath
You wouldn't what him kneading dough on the floor, so he did need those tables.
Kurt Konrath
Kurt Konrath
Maybe some good hardtack biscuits for use if the cook gets sick.