Nice neat planking.
Endeavour by Occre 1:54 [COMPLETED BUILD]
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My congratulations for reaching this important stage of building - Looking very good
Hi Keith,
Your model is coming along well.
I am building the same ship from Occre. I have a build log on this site. Have a look, if you are interested.
There are some pitfuls along the way. I find the plans for the rigging not so good.
Best of luck with your build.
The link: https://shipsofscale.com/sosforums/threads/hmb-endeavour.4655/
Trevor
Your model is coming along well.
I am building the same ship from Occre. I have a build log on this site. Have a look, if you are interested.
There are some pitfuls along the way. I find the plans for the rigging not so good.
Best of luck with your build.
The link: https://shipsofscale.com/sosforums/threads/hmb-endeavour.4655/
Trevor
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Hi Trevor,
Thank you for your feedback and for directing me to your build log. I wish I had come across that much earlier as it is very helpful. I have experienced some of the challenges that you have highlighted. I have looked through your very thorough log and and I am already planning some changes to my model based on some of your observations particularly in relation to the rigging.
Best regards
Keith
Hi Keith,
Firstly may I say you have done a really great job on building you ship.
Your skill level is way above mine, I tend to lack patience nowadays.
Secondly that is abetter kit altogether and much more detailed.
Again great work.
I will now be following this build.
Firstly may I say you have done a really great job on building you ship.
Your skill level is way above mine, I tend to lack patience nowadays.
Secondly that is abetter kit altogether and much more detailed.
Again great work.
I will now be following this build.
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I use the needle threader shown in the bowsprit image above. It is pushed through any hole and springs out to form a diamond shape through which the thread can be easily passed and then pulled back through the hole pulling the thread with it. If this does not make sense let me know and I can provide a set of images of the process.
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Hi Martin,
Thanks for your feedback. I think you are selling yourself short as you have done a great job, particularly if your first model. I built Mantua’s President as my first kit. Although it lacked detail I learned a lot of techniques and determined tools that I needed to assist with construction. I think you a correct with regard to the detail of the kit. The Occre kit has a lot of detail which I was looking for following building the President. However based on forums on SOS I have found advice and guidance on adding even more detail. From a patience perspective I find that I do most work in the winter during wet miserable days and also do short stints particularly with tedious tasks or even mix with more interesting tasks.
Thank you for the comment Keith.
Altho I have been model making for many years I seem to struggle to get that professional Finnish that you guys do. (if that makes sense)
Martin555.
Altho I have been model making for many years I seem to struggle to get that professional Finnish that you guys do. (if that makes sense)
Martin555.
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Firstly Happy New Year to everyone and I hope 2023 is a good year for all including many successful builds.
It has been a while since I last posted. In August 2022 (where did that time go?) I had completed the hull and deck fittings of the Occre Endeavour and was starting to progress on the masts, yards and rigging. Since my last post I have been making progress particularly over the festive period when I managed to contract Covid and hence ended up isolating which was an ideal time to further my build. I had a production line of masts and yards as below ...
Building the Tops
A threader is ideal for getting threads through holes
... and an extra pair of "hands" is always useful to hold the tops, plus a pair of locking forceps
The completed top attached to the mast via cheeks.
Note: I added a rail to the top after seeing an example on another build. This was not part of the Occre plan
I then continued to build the different parts of the masts using the plans ...
The rigging feels like a game of chess, trying to determine the optimum construction order giving easiest access to the build.
What has worked for me is:
1) Build/fit out the masts (but all mast sections are currently separate i.e. I have not yet attached the topmast to the lower mast, as in the photo above)
2) Fit out the yards with pulleys and fixings
3) Glue the Mizzen lower mast into the hull
4) Attach Mizzen lower mast stays
5) Attach the shrouds (and ratlines) on the Mizzen lower mast. Note: By not attaching the top mast at this point it is easier to attach the shrouds
6) Attach the Mizzen top mast to the lower mast
7) Attach the upper shrouds and ratlines
8) Attach the futtock shrouds
9) Attach the yards and thread the running rigging
Mizzen mast attached to hull (3)
Shrouds on lower Mizzen mast (5)
Notes:
1) Initially I tied a knot in the end of the deadeye rigging. However this meant that I had to get a threader into the back of the deadeye i.e. between the hull and dead eye which was painful. As such I changed approach and threaded the deadeyes in reverse so that I was pulling the thread from the back of the lower deadeye which meant the threader was pushed through the dead eye from the front which was much easier. Once all dead eyes were threaded I pulled the thread through to tie a knot before tensioning.
2) When threading the deadeyes and ratlines, don't skimp on thread. On occassions I did so and ended up cursing as it was difficult tying knots with little spare thread to work with.
Mizzen mast shrouds, ratlines, (7) and yards installed with running rigging (9)
Note for the Occre Endeavour, the rigging plans are poor compared to the rest of the paperwork provided i.e. the build of the hull is well documented. There appear to be additional pulleys and the plan view of the deck does not show all of the points where running rigging is attached. It has involved a lot of head scratching at times.
As an aside, tools that I have found most useful are ...
1) Tweezers with 45 degree tips are excellent for tying knots and accessing tight areas of the model
2) Bonzai snips are great for cutting threads, particularly the ends of ratlines
3) Threader is ideal for getting threads through deadeyes
4) Scalpel for applying spots of glue to knots
5) Crocodile clip for holding threads whilst tying knots
6) Spring loaded forceps ideal for holding the shrouds whilst attaching to the deadeyes
I'll post a few more images of the main and fore mast steps as I progress those.
It has been a while since I last posted. In August 2022 (where did that time go?) I had completed the hull and deck fittings of the Occre Endeavour and was starting to progress on the masts, yards and rigging. Since my last post I have been making progress particularly over the festive period when I managed to contract Covid and hence ended up isolating which was an ideal time to further my build. I had a production line of masts and yards as below ...
Building the Tops
A threader is ideal for getting threads through holes
... and an extra pair of "hands" is always useful to hold the tops, plus a pair of locking forceps
The completed top attached to the mast via cheeks.
Note: I added a rail to the top after seeing an example on another build. This was not part of the Occre plan
I then continued to build the different parts of the masts using the plans ...
The rigging feels like a game of chess, trying to determine the optimum construction order giving easiest access to the build.
What has worked for me is:
1) Build/fit out the masts (but all mast sections are currently separate i.e. I have not yet attached the topmast to the lower mast, as in the photo above)
2) Fit out the yards with pulleys and fixings
3) Glue the Mizzen lower mast into the hull
4) Attach Mizzen lower mast stays
5) Attach the shrouds (and ratlines) on the Mizzen lower mast. Note: By not attaching the top mast at this point it is easier to attach the shrouds
6) Attach the Mizzen top mast to the lower mast
7) Attach the upper shrouds and ratlines
8) Attach the futtock shrouds
9) Attach the yards and thread the running rigging
Mizzen mast attached to hull (3)
Shrouds on lower Mizzen mast (5)
Notes:
1) Initially I tied a knot in the end of the deadeye rigging. However this meant that I had to get a threader into the back of the deadeye i.e. between the hull and dead eye which was painful. As such I changed approach and threaded the deadeyes in reverse so that I was pulling the thread from the back of the lower deadeye which meant the threader was pushed through the dead eye from the front which was much easier. Once all dead eyes were threaded I pulled the thread through to tie a knot before tensioning.
2) When threading the deadeyes and ratlines, don't skimp on thread. On occassions I did so and ended up cursing as it was difficult tying knots with little spare thread to work with.
Mizzen mast shrouds, ratlines, (7) and yards installed with running rigging (9)
Note for the Occre Endeavour, the rigging plans are poor compared to the rest of the paperwork provided i.e. the build of the hull is well documented. There appear to be additional pulleys and the plan view of the deck does not show all of the points where running rigging is attached. It has involved a lot of head scratching at times.
As an aside, tools that I have found most useful are ...
1) Tweezers with 45 degree tips are excellent for tying knots and accessing tight areas of the model
2) Bonzai snips are great for cutting threads, particularly the ends of ratlines
3) Threader is ideal for getting threads through deadeyes
4) Scalpel for applying spots of glue to knots
5) Crocodile clip for holding threads whilst tying knots
6) Spring loaded forceps ideal for holding the shrouds whilst attaching to the deadeyes
I'll post a few more images of the main and fore mast steps as I progress those.
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Hello Keith
I appreciate the detail of the assembly of the Endeavour
I am in the process of editing myself but much less advanced
I struggle with the blocks in the bow to get the right shape, but since I have few tools, it's quite difficult!
All my best wishes for the new year.
Already the success of the model is a good start
Marco
I appreciate the detail of the assembly of the Endeavour
I am in the process of editing myself but much less advanced
I struggle with the blocks in the bow to get the right shape, but since I have few tools, it's quite difficult!
All my best wishes for the new year.
Already the success of the model is a good start
Marco
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Hi Marco, yes the bow blocks took some work. I used a basic chisel and mallet. I dry fitted the blocks against the hull and used a pencil to mark the outlines of the curves. I then screwed a block of wood into the back of each block. This allowed me to clamp the block and worked with the chisel to remove large chunks and get a basic/rough shape. I then used a rasp file and sand paper to shape the block and repeatedly dry fitted and kept working the block until I had a smooth transition with the rest of the hull. Once completed I glued the blocks onto the hull and performed a final sand a Ross the hull and bow blocks. If you look in an earlier post you will see the bow blocks fitted. Hope that helps.
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Great progress!
Very nice work indeed.
Good afternoon Keith. This is good work. Looking awesome. Cheers Grant
Hi Keith, I noticed you put nails in the hull of your Endeavour. This looks very nice. Where does this idea come from? Did you work according to an existing plan or did you design the pattern yourself?
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Hi, the idea came from the picture on the box and I thought looked a nice addition. Whether it is correct or not I am not sure but I liked the result. I just used the pins supplied for attaching the first layer of hull and used a fine paintbrush to paint black. Keep posting as interesting to see how others have interpreted the model
I didn't even notice that. Correct or not, it looks convincing, so I will follow in your footsteps and do the same thing. But I think I will use patina to (slightly) darken the nails instead of painting them black. Before second planking I removed the nails from the first layer of planks, so I can recycle those, with the advantage that they already have a battered look.
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Will be interested to see how yours turns out. Thank is a bit keen removing the nails from the first layer