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HMS Agamemnon by Caldercraft

Question for Iutar and all your followers.
In our case, this version of cutting in the boards is not suitable. It will appear only in the 19th century. In the 18th century, the "lost boards" method was used, as shown in the drawing in message 65.

If we talk about your method of cutting, then you are absolutely right, the use of margin plank before waterway is mandatory. But this is on decks. On superstructures, the waterway did not rise above the deck flooring, but was flush with it. Therefore, margin plank was not used there.

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Thanks Iutar. I am a still little confused, but that is nothing new for me. :( Goodwin shows waterways as below and they all have a rise to them rather than being flat so there would be an edge area as I show on the drawings above if a cut into the water way is made.
Allan
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Mark, you will have another discrepancy: the semicircular turrets are toilets for midshipmen, they should protrude slightly beyond the edge of the hull.
These towers are called roundhouses.

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Hello Iutar, Hello Allan,

A lot of info. :) ;)

Hi Allan,
Regarding ..... "still question the opening for the sprit through the deck"......
I glued everything together exactly to the millimeter, as shown on the drawings. See the attached assembly drawings, where this is further emphasized regarding the sprit. Could you please give me more details about what is wrong? Thx

Iutar,
Allan and myself contacted the Ship Yard who build 2 centuries ago the Agamemnon.
They responded as follows (extraction of the mail):

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So we downloaded a lot of plans and one is indeed showing the toilets for midshipmen.
However they are not shown on all drawings of the Ardent Class.. However I will add them....after the second planking...
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I glued everything together exactly to the millimeter, as shown on the drawings.
I totally understand your dilemma. I think part of the problem is that the kit drawing is not faithful to the contemporary drawing. For example, they forgot to continue the upper gun deck under the beakhead bulkhead and end at the stem. Compare the contemporary plans with the kit drawing below. Assuming the forward most bulkhead on the kit drawing, #1 forms the beakhead bulkhead, they have it in the wrong place which adds to the problem. The beakhead bulkhead is about 4' 4" aft of the inboard edge of the top of the stem. The kit plans have it 6' 2" aft. If this bulkhead was farther forward as on the actual ship, the opening for the sprit would be partially forward of the beakhead bulkhead and partially aft of it. I added some lines on the drawing below to compare. Also, consider Iutar's post that there is no platform above the beakhead portion of the upper gun deck. I am convinced he is correct that there is no part like #59/21 as there would only be about 25 inches between the upper gun deck at the beakhead and part 59/21. If you follow the contemporary drawings though, it may cause other problems with the kit assembly. I apologize if I have made this even more confusing. I did add where the beakhead bulkhead would be assuming the RMG drawing is correct.
Allan

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