HMS GRANADO - full hull - POF kit by CAF in 1:48 - by Uwe

[Uwek]

Bonjour, Quelle est la taille des clous que vous utilisez (diamètre, longueur) ? C'est certainement indiqué sur le forum mais je ne retrouve pas la page.
merci d'avance

Hello, What is the size of the nails you use (diameter, length)? It's probably mentioned on the forum but I can't find the page.
thank you in advance

Bonjour,
many thanks for your interest and the question.
I am using for these things 0,5mm copper nails from aeronaut, these are also avilable in 0,6 and 0,7mm
so depending on the location inside the model I am choosing the visual correct diameter.
Length, I do not know exactly, because I never check this, because I need only the first 3 to 5mm - the rest will be cut with pliers

I usual order these nails (german also called "Stift" or "Nagel") from this company

Stifte - Modellbau-Planet

Hier finden Sie unser Sortiment Stifte aus Kupfer.

modellbau-planet.de

 

[Uwek]

In order to prepare and define the exact cutting line between the upper and the lower part of the hull I used a copy of the sideview plan,
cut the plan along the lower wale and tried to fix the height
using the gunports as fixed points









To make the situation more clear the following colored will make it more clear

The green line is the lower edge of the wales, the lowest visible parts of upper part of the model
The red line is showing the separation of the frames, when the modeler is following the idea by CAF (see herefore in the following example A)
The blue dotted line will be my cutting line through the frames, which will be higher than the inside installed clamps (no cut through the clamps (only small part at the stern)). There will be enough meet on the upper parts of the frames, so I will be able to fix the lowest wale and the wale will cover the cut ends of the frames



A) Splitting of frame elements based on the idea by CAF - The "cuts" are following and done by the joints between futtocks and top timbers . therefore you have the teeth



B) Splitting is done with a real more or less horizontal cut through the frames independent of the location of the frame element joints


Like mentioned already earlier - my intention is to present my model like example B)


Here I used the oar sweep ports as fixed points

This is the aim




also I will male the outside planking on one side only, on the other side only parts of the wales



The BIG CUT is coming closer

 

[Hoss6262]

Before removing the hull out of the jig I fixed around the complete hull at the top ends of the frames from outside some temporary strips - they are only for stiffening and fixing the top ends of the frames, especially when the Big Cut was done - these stripes will be removed later, when i make the final planking of the upper part of the hull

Partly maybe you recognized thes stripes already in my last photos
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Due to the fact, that it is here important, that all frames have really a contact with the stripes I needed a lot of clamps - you can never have enough of them

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Also for stiffening the hulls I installed the smaller clamps for the rear after cabin deck

First the measurment of the correct height on both sides

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also with the help of the small beams

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the beam clamps are now fixed and the beams are laying dry fit

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once more with checking of the correct height

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and the correct alignment

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Now I have the feeling, that the hull with all frames are stabilized and I can try to remove the hull from the jig - please cross the fingers

Many Thanks for your interest .... to be continued and hopefull next post with the naked hull outside the jig

Fingers are crossed. You are a brave man Uwek!!

 

[Mirek]

Witaj .Życzę powodzenia będę trzymał za ciebie kciuki. Ja bym się bał że coś zepsuję ,ale świat do odważnych należy POWODZENIA .Pozdrawiam Mirek

Hello. Good luck I will keep my fingers crossed for you. I would be afraid that I would break something, but the world belongs to the brave. GOOD LUCK. Regards Mirek

 

[Uwek]

Hallo friends,
many thanks for the encouraging comments and all the likes received.

Coming closer...... but I still have to stabilize the stern structure with some wooden elements



installed horn timbers between the inner stern timbers


during sanding the hull I was a little bit too distracted and broke two of the stern timbers - no problem and they will be reinstalled later
wing transom (or is the Margin ?) was fitted to stabile the stern timbers, still has to be sanded down to get smooth with the stern timbers


installed upper sills for the ports


final sanding will be done also much later, for the moment it is necessary, that the stern is stabile


the cut will be between the wing transom and the second (from top) filling transom



as mentioned already in an earlier stage I would like to have one half of the inner hull completely planked and the other half with openings etc. to see the structure. Therefore only half of the inside side of the lower counter is planked - the port has to be still cut





Many Thanks for your interest .... to be continued .....

 

[Maarten]

Hi Uwe,

Looking forward to your Vienna chain saw massacre. So far so good.

 

[Frank48]

Hello Uwek, I ask, are these details the aft counter forehand and the forehand of the wheel, are they several pieces or just one, is it the photo that you can't see well? Thank you

 

[Thomas Marocke]

Hi Uwe!

Who has not broken off any stern timbers? I would completely rebuild and assemble them from scrap wood from the kit. So you get the unique value of your work and can sleep peacefully.

Best regards
Thomas

 

[Uwek]

Hello Uwek, I ask, are these details the aft counter forehand and the forehand of the wheel, are they several pieces or just one, is it the photo that you can't see well? Thank you

Hallo,
sorry for the late reply.
The keel by itself was one part (in the width)




and the raising wood at stern and also bow were build by two or even three elements



here you can see the three elements marked with arrows

 

[Uwek]

From time to time our cat "Kitty" is visiting me in the workshop. She is very curious about what is new and usually she is giving some comments about my actual work

Here Kitty is studying the manual and drawings



comparing with the work done - here she checked the marks for the cut



Her comment was only - Miau - so I have now doubts, if everything is correct what I did before



BTW: when she is walking over the table, she is not touching anything

 

[Tobias]

From time to time our cat "Kitty" is visiting me in the workshop. She is very curious about what is new and usually she is giving some comments about my actual work

Here Kitty is studying the manual and drawings

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comparing with the work done - here she checked the marks for the cut

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Her comment was only - Miau - so I have now doubts, if everything is correct what I did before

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BTW: when she is walking over the table, she is not touching anything

Just a simple "meow" not much.

 

[Frank48]

Hallo,
sorry for the late reply.
The keel by itself was one part (in the width)
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and the raising wood at stern and also bow were build by two or even three elements

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here you can see the three elements marked with arrows

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Thanks for answering me

 

[Kurt Konrath]

From time to time our cat "Kitty" is visiting me in the workshop. She is very curious about what is new and usually she is giving some comments about my actual work

Here Kitty is studying the manual and drawings

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comparing with the work done - here she checked the marks for the cut

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Her comment was only - Miau - so I have now doubts, if everything is correct what I did before

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BTW: when she is walking over the table, she is not touching anything

You have your watch cat trained well, and I bet no mice in the hold either with such an astute observer.

 

[Steef66]

BTW: when she is walking over the table, she is not touching anything

She's probably careful because she's already spent the 9 lives.

 

[GrantTyler]

From time to time our cat "Kitty" is visiting me in the workshop. She is very curious about what is new and usually she is giving some comments about my actual work

Here Kitty is studying the manual and drawings

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comparing with the work done - here she checked the marks for the cut

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Her comment was only - Miau - so I have now doubts, if everything is correct what I did before

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BTW: when she is walking over the table, she is not touching anything

Good evening Uwek. That last pic-Kitty certainly looks like she is concerned that your “dissection” lines are spot on.. Cheers Grant

 

[Uwek]

Caused by the ambiguous MIAU by Kitty I checked it once more

So once more -


and in addition the check with some pseudo dry fitting with the wales



it was very interesting to see on a flat base the curved wale-planking to get at the end a more or less straight wale



with this check I was able to mark the lowest wale planking line on the frames - remember in between the lowest plank I try to make my cut

 

[Stevedownunder]

Caused by the ambiguous MIAU by Kitty I checked it once more

So once more -
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and in addition the check with some pseudo dry fitting with the wales

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it was very interesting to see on a flat base the curved wale-planking to get at the end a more or less straight wale

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with this check I was able to mark the lowest wale planking line on the frames - remember in between the lowest plank I try to make my cut

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Hi Uwe,
Check many times before cutting in this case.
Great work.

Cheers,
Stephen.

 

[Uwek]

I did it - and I give a s... what Kitty will say (maybe she was only hungry when she made the MIAU)



the pencil marks on both sides of the cut mark the location of the lowest wale
I started on both sides from midship and worked towards the bow and backwards towards the stern



a view from inside - appr. half the way the cut is done and you can hardly see the sawblade
the cut was done just above the clamps for the mortar bed beams



also from inside but the phone camera was located through the mortar opening in the deck structure - here you can see the saw blade better



left side was cut up to the stern post





- now the other side ..... but

I realized, that the area close to the stern, where no deck structure was fixed, is too weak. I had to stop with the cut.
I have to find a solution ......

The deck strcture at the stern is no sultion, because it will slightly lower than the cut - so I decided to install the upper row of the wale from stern towards midship - at this stage it was also good, that I marked before already the location



you can never have enough clamps
in the following photo you can see the open area where no deck structure is fxed



after drying





This action made the upper part stiff enough, so I was able to go forward with the cut

and finally - DONE







JuHu - I am very happy now - and btw also Kitty

 

[Don Case]

You're a better man than I am, well done!

 

[pianoforte]

Hallo Uwe, just brilliant, must have worked great. Applause, applause. Very, very good work.