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HMS Victory by Y.T.- Mamoli - 1:90 scale

Then I decided going straight by the book (the booklet I mentioned above). I tried fixing and saving at least some of Silkspan on the frame. I went and purchased a good brush. It is 2" wide. I diluted the paint very much to have it mostly as a wash. I applied the paint on undamaged paper sheet. It went pretty well. See below.

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The Silkspan sags when paint is applied and later dries and tightens on the frame. Then It is possible to imitate the pieces of canvas parchment sewed together by drawing some lines on the sheet with a ruler pen loaded with paint. See it in pic above under the light behind. I screwed up lots of paper (seen on the left of the sheet) learning the technique.
 
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Now it is the time to outline the sail on the Silkspan sheet and to apply the reinforcement tablings. See some sail sketch below with the naming nomenclature of its elements for future reference. This is what I want my sails to look like when applied to my model. I had cut some slender pieces of the Silkspan to apply. I however do not have the proper gluing agent to glue them on. When I receive it I will continue.

To be continued...

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My main task for now is making a spritsail. Here what I managed to draw as an imitation of the pieces of 22 inch wide strips of canvas sewed together. Done by drawing some lines on the paper with a ruler pen loaded with paint. Doesn’t look bad to those who is having an imagination, is not it?

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Y.T. said:
It appeared that using a Silkspan can get me to what I am looking for. On this forum I was referred to a booklet:

" The Fully Framed Model, HMN Swan Class Sloops 1767 - 1780 Volume IV - Sail Making Supplement by David Antscherl..."

This cost me $5 to download. I got experience from it for $1000.
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I took advantage of this ref. & downloaded my $5's worth, or in my case £3.71; a bargain! I do have a set of sales in 1:75, providing they are satisfactory WHEN the time comes! If they're not, & as Silkspan is not available in UK, but there is an alternative that is now used by aircraft modellers, of which I have stock.
 
Have you looked at the Model Shipways' (MS) web site?:

MS sells sail cloth, Model Shipways Sail Cloth, 18 x 36 (457 x 915mm), $19.99 Original price On sale: $13.39, Part Number: MS0567
Availability: In Stock

I have used this and its pretty good.
 
uncchains said:
Have you looked at the Model Shipways' (MS) web site?:

MS sells sail cloth, Model Shipways Sail Cloth, 18 x 36 (457 x 915mm), $19.99 Original price On sale: $13.39, Part Number: MS0567
Availability: In Stock

I have used this and its pretty good.
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Do you have a copy of Wolfram Zu Mondfeld's book, "Historic Ship Models?" (2005, Sterling Publishing Co., ISBN: 1-4027-2186-2). It has a very extensive chapter beginning on page 248 about various types sails, where sails are placed, decorations, etc. This may be a helpful resource in your efforts to construct your sails.
 
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My main task for now is making a spritsail. Here what I managed to draw as an imitation of the pieces of 22 inch wide strips of canvas sewed together. Done by drawing some lines on the paper with a ruler pen loaded with paint. Doesn’t look bad to those who is having an imagination, is not it?

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Hello J.T. It looks extreemly good, the line that you made with the ruler pen looks amazing. Would you please share this ruler pen image please?

Eduardo Tubino
 
AllanKP69 said:
Clever idea and the results are really good. Like Etubino, I am curious about the ruling pen. Are the below what you are referring to? Just want to be sure before buying some.
Thanks YT
Allan
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Thanks Allan, I´ve also realized that in the first picture posted by Y.T. there is one of the same type of pens, like the picture youve just posted.

Regards, Eduardo Tubino
 
Just went back and noticed the pen as well. I need to pay better attention :( SOMEWHERE I had my old drawing equipment kit from 1965 for our drafting class. I still have the screw dividers but alas cannot find the kit and the ruling pens.
Allan
 
AllanKP69 said:
Just went back and noticed the pen as well. I need to pay better attention :( SOMEWHERE I had my old drawing equipment kit from 1965 for our drafting class. I still have the screw dividers but alas cannot find the kit and the ruling pens.
Allan
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I do have just a little one remaining in a compass box as well, but I don´t know how to get such a definition in a line tha simulates extreemly well the sewing.
I will wait for Y.T. to let us know "his trick"
 
Y.T. said:
Guys. These few weeks I dedicated to making a frame. Yes. The frame to protect my model from dust. So far I was covering it with some garbage bags cover. It was made up of two bags taped together. I was not happy with this arrangement. I couldn’t see through black plastic. I had to come about with better solution. So I made a frame. Frame is made of wood square dowels. They are 5/8”. I measured up my fully rigged model. I allowed about one inch on each side of a cover frame. I came up with huge frame dimensions. It now stands at 48 inches long by 20 inches deep and by 34 inches high. Wow. It is huge. Look at the picture.

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I am most impressed!

Bill
 
etubino said:
a line tha simulates extreemly well the sewing
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I may be seeing this incorrectly but I think the lines you see represent the seams that overlap one to two inches along the edge of the panels that make up the sail, not the sewing. At our most common scales there is no way to sew the seams of the panels or sail edges with thread that are even close to scale, especially at 1:90.

Look at the sails in the set of photos of the only known model with original sails from the 18th century, Tartar (20) 1734 at RMG and you will see the subtlety of the seams of the sails.

Tartar (1734); Warship; Sixth rate; 20 guns | Royal Museums Greenwich

www.rmg.co.uk www.rmg.co.uk

Allan
 
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If you are using a ruling pen, you need to be very particular with the ruler or straightedge you use it with. The proper rulers are undercut at the edge so they don't cause your paper to soak up ink due to capillary attraction.

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