...meaning you have already perfected the therapy part, @RogerDLooking really great Grant. I’m learning a lot following your posts, except the therapy bit.
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HMS Victory Mantua 1:78 (first build) by Grant Tyler
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Good morning. In my plan of learning and perhaps madness I continued with my Mizzen. Most models (almost all) seat all masts and complete the standing rigging first and then move on to fitting yards etc.
I have decided in my method to fit all the yards, lift lines and truss pendant braces first and then move to the main mast. This way the entire front section is free from stays etc and fitting the yards and rigging these is easier. The sheet lines, buntlines etc will be done after all the standing rigging. So far this is awesome...waiting for the “ouch” knock on consequences later.
Mizzen cross Jack :
I drilled a small 0.6mm pin into center of yard and made a hole in mast where the yard fits. A tiny drop of CA, dry for 30sec and then “wiggle” the yard so it has a little movement when you tension the topping lifts. Just make sure the stirrups and cleats are centered correctly- I had to redo
. Works brilliantly as the yard is light and one can tension the sling, topping lifts etc without the yard shifting all over the place. You cannot see the pin from any angle.Not my idea and I’m sure many guys use this.
Strapped my stays up out of the way and had no confusion or lines to work around. Was good.
Interesting- the Victory Mizzen cross Jack has no jeer blocks. Like really? I had put these on in my ignorance and had to cut them off. It is held on by a sling only. When I “modified “my kit masts I did not leave the sling gaps through the cross trees big enough and I could not seize these. More blunders- looks good tho.
Ok enough waffle here are some pics:
Blue arrow- even when I have no fore masts and stays to work around Grantie breaks his stanchion on his netting. No finesse.
The sling is connected with 0.2mm hemp colour thread and finished with double half hitches.
The truss prendant lines run to deck through 2 single 5mm blocks. My hook making still not A, but move from and F I think?
The topping lift lines and truss pendant brace lines are tied off and I attempted some rope coils. Better Pic- the above just looked cool through the ratlines
I have been reading The Art of Rigging and there are so many inaccuracies in the above build process and kit plans and parts. E.g. the knots used (vs whipping), the stirrups are rope (vs brass hooks), rope coils etc- it is so interesting how these ships are rigged but I need to build to my skill and the scale level.
Cheers Grant
I have decided in my method to fit all the yards, lift lines and truss pendant braces first and then move to the main mast. This way the entire front section is free from stays etc and fitting the yards and rigging these is easier. The sheet lines, buntlines etc will be done after all the standing rigging. So far this is awesome...waiting for the “ouch” knock on consequences later.
Mizzen cross Jack :
I drilled a small 0.6mm pin into center of yard and made a hole in mast where the yard fits. A tiny drop of CA, dry for 30sec and then “wiggle” the yard so it has a little movement when you tension the topping lifts. Just make sure the stirrups and cleats are centered correctly- I had to redo
. Works brilliantly as the yard is light and one can tension the sling, topping lifts etc without the yard shifting all over the place. You cannot see the pin from any angle.Not my idea and I’m sure many guys use this.Strapped my stays up out of the way and had no confusion or lines to work around. Was good.
Interesting- the Victory Mizzen cross Jack has no jeer blocks. Like really? I had put these on in my ignorance and had to cut them off. It is held on by a sling only. When I “modified “my kit masts I did not leave the sling gaps through the cross trees big enough and I could not seize these. More blunders- looks good tho.
Ok enough waffle here are some pics:
Blue arrow- even when I have no fore masts and stays to work around Grantie breaks his stanchion on his netting. No finesse.
The sling is connected with 0.2mm hemp colour thread and finished with double half hitches.
The truss prendant lines run to deck through 2 single 5mm blocks. My hook making still not A, but move from and F I think?
The topping lift lines and truss pendant brace lines are tied off and I attempted some rope coils. Better Pic- the above just looked cool through the ratlines
I have been reading The Art of Rigging and there are so many inaccuracies in the above build process and kit plans and parts. E.g. the knots used (vs whipping), the stirrups are rope (vs brass hooks), rope coils etc- it is so interesting how these ships are rigged but I need to build to my skill and the scale level.
Cheers Grant
Onto Mizzen top mast yard
Block rigged and ready to be hauled up onto mast - for another day.
PS excuse the shadows in the photos of last two post- dark in Cape Town in the mornings now.
Cheers Grant
Block rigged and ready to be hauled up onto mast - for another day.
PS excuse the shadows in the photos of last two post- dark in Cape Town in the mornings now.
Cheers Grant
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There's little paradox in this statement,becasue when you started rigging you had 0 to little skill like most of peope who start doing new things, but by doing rigging on Victory you improved your skill. So you see you can't build to your current level because your already exceed it
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This is just really fine work Grant. Congratulations.
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I couldn't stomach more than an hour worth of doing ratlines. I hate that job with a passion...Good evening- It is time for you guys to share the pain.....HMS Victory and ratlines..... They say sharing and feeling vulnerable is good therapy.
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Cheers Grant
Still a fabulous looking build. Your eye for detail is paying dividend.
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There's little paradox in this statement,becasue when you started rigging you had 0 to little skill like most of peope who start doing new things, but by doing rigging on Victory you improved your skill. So you see you can't build to your current level because your already exceed it
Grant is sleeping so I'll answer for him: https://drydockmodelsandparts.com/
Awesome now I need to figure out what scale for rope and blocks I am going to actually need lol. But I know where I can atleast order from
And he just became restless as he dreams of his Victory but there’s an orthodontist nearby tapping away on his keyboard
To the untrained eye (and mine are very untrained), and I'm sure even to a few trained eyes your model is coming along A-one Grant. I would not even have noticed the buckled netting stanchion if you hadn't pointed it out. (Rule 14b of the Ship Modeller's code - do not point out your mistakes to others ). At best I would have put i
t down to normal wear and tear. Seriously though, lots of good stuff to look at in those pictures, great job so far 
). At best I would have put it down to normal wear and tear. Seriously though, lots of good stuff to look at in those pictures, great job so far
True story- the paradox is like a never ending circle...There's little paradox in this statement,becasue when you started rigging you had 0 to little skill like most of peope who start doing new things, but by doing rigging on Victory you improved your skill. So you see you can't build to your current level because your already exceed it
Good morning and thanks for the compliments @Heinrich , @dockattner ,@Nomad ,@RogerD , @RDN1954, @Robp1025 .
While I sleep : Paul steals my Keyboard, Heinrich redefines the meaning of finesse, Mark drafts legislation-the model shipbuilders act, Johann has stomach issues, Rob seeks new blocks and rope and Roger gives the orthodontist a rev....
Seriously thanks guys. Cheers Grant
While I sleep : Paul steals my Keyboard, Heinrich redefines the meaning of finesse, Mark drafts legislation-the model shipbuilders act, Johann has stomach issues, Rob seeks new blocks and rope and Roger gives the orthodontist a rev....
Seriously thanks guys. Cheers Grant
Good morning. Reading A short History of HMS Victory by Commander W Wharton - published in 1874. Interesting point from 1799 to 1801 the Victory was used as a Hopital ship.
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Interesting bit of history.
I thoroughly enjoy this kind of information, it makes the models we build to become more than a representation of just a ship.
But this flag didn't exist yet in that period
