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I present to you the first published pages of the Pirate Ship document.

I think you might be surprised at how low the ceiling height was below deck on many ships of that time period.
For a crew walking the worst case is from the deck surface to the under side of the beams above which are shown on the drawings. The height between the bottom of the deck beam above and the surface of the deck below varied. Below are two fifty gun ships, Litchfield 1695 and Portland 1770 with the dimensions on the various decks. In the Portland drawing the legend at the top gives the distance from the beam on of the QD to the top of the beams of the round house. (Underlined portion) Both drawings were scaled to 1:1 then the measurements taken.
Allan
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Hi UVS
As you are still in the drawing stages are you open to changing anything? Some things in your drawings are very different than actual construction practice on the ships and contemporary models such as the joints of the keel, cannon pattern and carriage pattern.
Cheers
Allan
I would consider anything anyone points out, however I am not drawing this to be completely historic or authentic. I've tried to adopted different joints and ways of fastening things with more modern connectors, and criteria in woodworking that a regular joe could conveiveably do in a small woodworking shop, by limiting the overall sizes of the lumber they would easily be able to work with and sizes for each piece which would not be too expensive or rare to find. Large timbers are expensive and not as available as smaller pieces. Steel bolts and connectors, plates, etc is much easier to produce and buy off the shelf than back then when they had to manufacture everything in forges. I pretty much know every aspect of both woodworking and machining, so I am trying to basically make a hybrid design of old techniques and new ones. I am not so closed minded to look at something and say "hey that is a reasonable and meaningful or more efficient design"
 
For a crew walking the worst case is from the deck surface to the under side of the beams above which are shown on the drawings. The height between the bottom of the deck beam above and the surface of the deck below varied. Below are two fifty gun ships, Litchfield 1695 and Portland 1770 with the dimensions on the various decks. In the Portland drawing the legend at the top gives the distance from the beam on of the QD to the top of the beams of the round house. (Underlined portion) Both drawings were scaled to 1:1 then the measurements taken.
Allan
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I would hate to be the poor soul who served on that ship. Can you imagine the work on decks with low headroom all the time? You would have to hunch over to walk to and fro, and after hours of this I am sure your body would be sore.
 
I would hate to be the poor soul who served on that ship. Can you imagine the work on decks with low headroom all the time? You would have to hunch over to walk to and fro, and after hours of this I am sure your body would be sore.
Remember, in those days, people from north western nations were a lot shorter due to poor nutrition. This is not the case anymore. Better nutrition.

Marcus
 
As a retired machine designer I can appreciate the work you are putting in these drawings Well done
Thanks so much for your kudos. I have removed myself from posting pictures, and using 2D CAD to design all the ship. It is well under way. My estimate is that 50% of all the pieces are drawn in CAD.
 
Hi UVSaturated
The only metal I have cast into cannon is pewter. Casting bronze could be interesting but I will probably stay with making a master with a lathe then making a mold and casting in resin rather than bronze or having 3D printed guns from my collection of drawings for various eras and nationalities.

Your drawings are very interesting but I hope you don't mind me asking why you are not making the designs as they were actually done on a ship?

The reason is because I am designing a ship based on the Walt Disney movies, the 'Black Pearl'. Now, the ship in the movie is not practical. I can tell you that because I am reverse engineering it on CAD. I am not trying to replicate historically what was done, but making a new ship with old school advices. I gather information here by you peoples posts, and that helps me in understanding the nature of the craft, but why it was designed the way it is. For example, the seat of ease was placed at the head of the ship. Why? Mainly because of crew politics. The executives, the Captain and his administrators had their own seat of ease seperate from the crew. I am understanding Naval terms like port and starboard. Most people do not know the meanings of those words, or the light beacons on an aircraft that is red or green. They use the same protocols on ships so that a vessel can be determined from afar if it is coming or going away from the ships vantage point.

I am not trying to duplicate or authenticate historical vessels, or armament. The cannon drawings though do impress upon me as I know a lot about casting and machining.

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Here is the latest on this project so far. It has been a long time since I have posted to this thread, and here are it's updates:

I had to rethink the way I was proceeding with the illustration work as I found compiling mathematical errors in the just the Keel and the Bow, and it took me some time to reevalute my methodology in producing the blueprints. I have spent about a year and a half now on it and still cooking! I used to have 3D CAD but have resorted to 2D CAD which is sufficient with my limited resources. So with the CAD work on the Pirate Ship I am about 65% in completion of the basic structure and uniformity across the frames of the ship. I had to rescale the ship also because I saw that the size would not work full scale which I had intended. The truth is, I am going to produce free CAD drawings for the pirate ship for hobbyist to build at any scale, and the original 1:1 scale prints I am engineering for sale at boat and marine shows. You know that rich kids love to spend money at those? Here's to flying the Jolly Roger.

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